Talk:Nazism

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Irrelevance of François Furet's book as a source

The penultimate paragraph in the "Position within the political spectrum" category mentions that Hitler praised Stalin and Stalinism on multiple occasions and was satisfied that Stalin had purged Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Radek, going so far as to desire an alliance with the Soviet Union. Footnotes (71) and (72) refer to François Furet's book "Passing of an Illusion: The Idea of Communism in the Twentieth Century." I have this book in its original French edition. The source Furet indicates for each of these points is Hermann Rauschning's book "Gespräche mit Hitler," which has been discredited for several years by historians as an unreliable source, Rauschning having presumably invented everything. I recommend deleting this paragraph. Cleonacio (talk) 18:51, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2025

Please change "During Hitler's rise to power, it was frequently called Hitler Fascism and Hitlerism." to blank. The term "Hitler Fascism" is not sourced and does not appear in the body of the text. The term "Hitlerism" appears twice in the body of the text as a term coined by historians, no evidence it was used during Hitler's rise to power. The lede of a WP article needs to be accurate. ~2025-43423-41 (talk) 09:00, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now, but leaving open. Which source are you referring to? "Hitlerism" is mentioned further down in the article, and makes a little more sense to retain. "Hitler fascism" does not, and shouldn't be mentioned without a source. But I'd still like regulars here to weigh in before changing that. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:34, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to have missed my point. There is no source for "Hitler fascism" in the article, and it should be removed. Yes or no? Telling me that "Hitlerism" is mentioned in the article after I have already stated that it is mentioned twice is not helpful. It is mentioned twice as a term used by historians after WW2. The article states that the term was used during Hitler's rise to power - no source states that, so that should be removed. Yes or no? What we appear to have here is a WP editor in the past has pushed a POV without sourcing. ~2025-43423-41 (talk) 23:54, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The term "Hitler Fascism" was used a non-zero number of times; whether "frequently" is appropriate is a fair question. Ngrams shows "hitler fascism" as maybe 2% as frequently as "hitlerism", and "Hitlerism" about half as frequently as "Nazism". I'd strike "frequently". --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 00:17, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ngram doesn't even register "Hitler Facism" for me, though. FMRadio :3(chat | edits | she/her) 04:31, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yeah. Hitlerism v. Nazism is interesting; "Hitler Fascism" is background noise. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 06:17, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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