User talk:Mjroots
Mjroots
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DYK & ITN
| This user has written or expanded 233 articles featured in the Did You Know section on the Main Page. |
My DYKs are on this sub-page and my ITNs are on this sub-page.
Earlier discussions are archived here
| The 25 DYK Medal | ||
| For achieving your 25th Did You Know? I hereby award you this big fat medal. Well done. Hersfold (t/a/c) 23:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC) |
| The 50 DYK Medal | ||
| Trams, mills, railways ... I think Isambard would have been proud of your approach particulary the French ideas, but he would have barred our veteran editor from further progression for supporting a railway that was merely a metre. But he's not here! So more seriously, thank you on behalf of the wiki. (Let me tell you though that the 100 one s a really cool yellowy gold colour). Good luck with the GA and cheers Victuallers (talk) 12:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC) |
| The 100 DYK Medal | ||
| As I told you at 50 ... the 100 DYK medal is a really cool shade of yellow. I hope you are not disappointed, as the wiki is not regretful at all of your efforts. Well done. The wiki gets better due to your contributions and its a pleasure to thank you again on behalf of the wiki. See you at 200? Victuallers (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC) |
| The 200 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal | ||
| The D.Y.K. Project thanks you for your tireless contributions. The Interior (Talk) 17:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC) |
DYK for PS Castalia
Thank you for thanking me. I actually noticed only one of the typos, but I use Firefox and it apparently spellchecks everything by default. When I went into edit mode, not only was the error I noticed underlined with a wavy line, so were other things. I had to sort out the genuine mistakes from a lot of "false positives"; I hope I didn't change anything that was right.
You are obviously a very active contributor to Wikipedia. I am mostly a consumer -- I benefit from the work you and others like you do. Thank you very much.
I have no idea whether this is the right place for this comment. You replied to my talk page and this is your talk page, so I hope it is. If not, you will move it. Gms3591 (talk) 07:21, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Want to expand Peace in Africa for a DYK?
Hi Mjroots, you and Haus seem to have good access to merchant marine sources. Want to expand Peace in Africa (ship) for DYK? Djembayz (talk) 11:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Any additions to Malahat (schooner) at DYK?
Hi again! I've put in a self nom for Malahat (schooner) at DYK. Perhaps you can spruce it up a bit. Djembayz (talk) 21:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of 1912 Brooklands Flanders Monoplane crash
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- Bump. Chris857 (talk) 03:11, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Ping. Hope you're doing well. Drmies (talk) 02:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Incomplete DYK nomination
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DYK nomination of Wendhausen Windmill
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Eckwersheim derailment has been nominated for Did You Know
DYK nomination of Godmersham Park
Hello! Your submission of Godmersham Park at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Elisa.rolle (talk) 12:43, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Godmersham Park at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:24, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
- Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Admin
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Aviation
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Comac c919 engine
Reference don't support the text, which states "CFM supplied CFM56 engines". Sayanpdd (talk) 05:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sayanpdd: isn't the LEAP engine a development of the CFM56? Which particular reference in the Comac C919 article do you mean? Mjroots (talk) 05:48, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- i send you references articles which are attached with the misleading part, I read the full article ,no where the article mentions that Comac c919 use rebadged CFM-56 engines. Sayanpdd (talk) 08:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the LEAP engine is the successor to the CFM56,but the text mentioned that CFM supplied Comac with rebadged CFM-56 is misleading. yes, leap-c version is more heavy ,but components are identical with other leap engines and it's more matched with leap-A.Also the reference does not match the misleading text.
- Reference that is used:-
- https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2022/09/20/china-comac-c919-boeing-airbus/
Sayanpdd (talk) 06:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sayanpdd: - I claim no "ownership" of the article. If you think that a correction needs to be made, be bold and make it, using your source to reference the correction. Mjroots (talk) 08:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- The section, which I am taking about need to be deleted , what reference I should add when it is misleading.
- Lastly, you should undo the revision you did on my edit on Comac 919 article. Sayanpdd (talk) 09:10, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sayanpdd: Apologies, I've just realised what this is about. I'll copy this conversation over to the talk page of the aircraft article, and ping others involved. Hopefully we can get consensus on this. Mjroots (talk) 09:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sayanpdd: - I claim no "ownership" of the article. If you think that a correction needs to be made, be bold and make it, using your source to reference the correction. Mjroots (talk) 08:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Caspian Airlines Flight 6936 for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caspian Airlines Flight 6936 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Lolzer3000 (talk) 14:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Caspian Airlines Flight 6936 for deletion
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Nomination of 2009 Aéro-Frêt An-12 crash for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2009 Aéro-Frêt An-12 crash until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Split proposal
How long is that proposal going to keep pending? Nagito Komaeda the Second (talk) 23:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Nagito Komaeda the Second: - I'd like to let it run another week or so. It's still linked from WT:AV, so people can still find the discussion. Mjroots (talk) 16:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Understood. Thank you for answering. Nagito Komaeda the Second (talk) 17:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Split proposal part 2
Sorry for continuing this topic but as you see, not many people have voiced their opinions regarding your proposal and all but one of those who partook were against the split. Maybe we should terminate this proposal or at least postpone it and maybe try again later when the frequency on the page is higher. Don't take this as an insult, I simply feel it drags longer than it needs to. Nagito Komaeda the Second (talk) 18:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Nagito Komaeda the Second: - I'd already closed the proposal as "no consensus". Three votes against and two for. The issue may be looked at again at some point in the future. Mjroots (talk) 06:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Understood Nagito Komaeda the Second (talk) 12:20, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of 2019 Northrop N-9M crash for deletion
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Geotags, Grid refs etc,
Geo Links and Geograph
There are problems with your suggestion- which is the reason I haven't done it. There is a discussion forum Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates that is discussing the whole thing. The crux is that many people are unhappy if the link goes to one site, no matter how useful, and believes that the link should only go to GeoHack, where the reader can choose the map they want. There are a lot of unhappy people there. I have a problem with the way we are doing the conversion. It looks great, but if we edit either gridref or the location then the other doesn't change. In looking for a solution, I have been looking at the maths and a lot doesn't add up, this coupled with the volatility of forum, I have been hanging back. ClemRutter (talk) 18:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hello there, and thanks for the contact. To me this looks good, but (and it is a big but) I'm afraid the issue appears more complex and contentious than I had first anticipated. I'm also not particularly "clued-up" about which system is good and which is bad, which seems to be part of an ongoing debate. All I know is that there should be a standard system, and these should be included as part of the text for settlements in the UK. Have you taken this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates? -- Jza84 · (talk) 23:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Infobox geotags- looks as it will take some time. Its on my list! ClemRutter (talk) 01:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Checking inline geotags
- Now the accuracy of OStoWiki has been corrected (+/- 2m) all previous references may need tweaking.
- The GeoHack tool now has a new interface and at the bottom of the GB section, under the dangerously inaccurate grid reference is a fantastic tool called Map of all Coordinates in article.
- I tried it on the Loose stream, and because of it I I'm going to make another tweak to OStoWiki.
ClemRutter (talk) 21:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
It is perfectly safe to use: the next tweak will be an enhancementClemRutter (talk) 23:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Oscoor
Thanks for the reminder. Although I use OS maps within multimap to find things, multimap gives DMS output, and the numbering of the OS gridlines in the display tends to be hidden; so I tend to think I'm not ever going to use {{oscoor}}. However your intervention did cause me to go back and read the national grid system article, so as to understand the resolution of various lengths of OS coordinate. As I would not have done this without your intervention; thanks! --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Problem with gbmapping and oscoor templates
Hi, There seems to be a small inaccuracy in the translation of OSGB coords to WGS84. I've mentioned it here and here but haven't found anyone who might be able to fix it. Do you know where it would be best to raise it, please?--Cavrdg (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Grid refs
I did not like having to display grid refs without spaces. At long last I have got round to asking someone and doing this very simple edit. The php that it calls was already prepared to receive spaces. That means you could do this edit to other articles that call oscoor (which is now a redirect). But certainly, I suggest using {{gbmappingsmall}} in any future case. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I have now implemented oscoor elimination as a tool - see Template talk:oscoor. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:30, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Geograph
Moved from my user page
Yes indeed! A terrific place for browsing old memories and old haunts as well! Thanks for the reminder. Palmeira (talk) 17:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, the FAQ says CC-BY-SA-2.0 but I think that should still usable. We just have to maintain attribution. LeadSongDog come howl! 03:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Mills
Earlier discussions are archived here

The article List of windmills in Friesland (T–V) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Unclear why we would need such a detailed list of a type of building, most of which are not individually notable and no longer existing. Replicating other, highly specialised databases here is not really the purpose of Wikipedia.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Fram (talk) 14:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of List of windmills in Friesland (T–V) for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of windmills in Friesland (T–V) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Fram (talk) 15:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Oldland Mill
Hi,hope you had a good Christmas. Back in 2008 you moved Oldland Mill to Oldland Mill, Keymer for consistency with other windmill articles.[1] Does this still apply? As far as I can tell, no disambiguation is required and I'm inclined to move it back, but I'll leave it where it is if necessary. — Voice of Clam (talk) 19:42, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Voice of Clam: - My personal preference is mill name, location. But if you want to move it back, I won't object. Mjroots (talk) 15:52, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
- I've put in a move request, rather than acting unilaterally. — Voice of Clam (talk) 18:44, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
People
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Lizzy Rose
hi MjRoots thank you for your comments on the draft page on Lizzy Rose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lizzy_Rose#Things_I_have_learned_the_hard_way_-_retrospective_(2023)
The comments have been resolved but I don't seem able to remove them so it can be approved - and I can't seem to talk directly to the person who made those comments. Is this something you could do? Thanks so much Chopschopschops (talk) 09:29, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Chopschopschops: I'm satisfied that it is in a fit condition, and have moved the draft to Lizzy Rose in mainspace. Mjroots (talk) 17:03, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- That's amazing, thank you so, so so much - it means the world to me Chopschopschops (talk) 17:04, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Chopschopschops: of course, that means other editors are likely to
rip your hard work to pieceswork on and improve the article. Mjroots (talk) 17:07, 3 August 2023 (UTC)- haha of course :) I have edits I want to make too so I'm sure I can handle that (I do comms as a job so it goes with the territory) Chopschopschops (talk) 17:08, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Chopschopschops: of course, that means other editors are likely to
- That's amazing, thank you so, so so much - it means the world to me Chopschopschops (talk) 17:04, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Draft: Brian E. Kinsella - Meritorious Public Service medal Recipient
Hi Mjroots,
I am new on Wikipedia, and joined as I want to write articles about individuals I find notable for their efforts to change the world for the better, but who are often overlooked, due to the massive amounts of bigger biographies to read out there.
I have spent some time now to ensure that my first article was in the review queue as a Class-B prediction. But I am not sure what happens now? I tried to request an assessment from the Military History portal, which is how I received a notification on an edit from you, but it didn't show up on the self-request page at all.
I've ensured my article is well documented with 2nd degree sources of citations/references, and have optimized my writing to the best of my ability to be accurate, factual and unbiased.
You are clearly a veteran on here, any advice as to what I can do to have my first article published?
Thank you so much in advance, and I hope I hear from you.
Best,
Mwikiforce
Mwikiforce (talk) 21:59, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Mwikiforce: - the proto-article looks fine. I've removed bolding from a section header per MOS. I don't forsee any problems with it being promoted. You'll just need to wait for a reviewer. Mjroots (talk) 07:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Mjroots,
- Thank you SO much for taking the time to look at it! You can’t imagine how much I appreciate that! Does that usually take the four months that is suggested?
- Bedankt!
- MWikiforce Mwikiforce (talk) 12:47, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Pictures
Earlier discussions are archived here
Could you help me with a WikiMedia related matter
@Mjroots: I found a copyright-free image of SS Richard Montgomery in-tact on Flickr here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/135648140@N02/29712569787/in/photolist-MgAFPZ-MgAFNX-3bjAY9-msjJWT-Wu34UT-2meaP83-62XCiC-2mdDgXQ-2mdDgX9-Zx132W-2mdC9WW-2fznVGe-DhSdV-5RotDB-ee23TP-hW8STy-ee7JBY-2mdHhWN-8Mb6um-hW8UHd-MW8dtk-8xhE19-2kTDwb8-bsBZeg-2mAXCAv-2j4gyDU-2mBqEZF-2gG27BY-d4jQ2q-6rMion-N4FHnk-Wo4fmQ-2mdFUK4-MNmew1-fHiaXM-42nTc4-2mdDgWC-2mdDgWh-3bf7U4-DhScL-XUhoJW-j7xvB6-2cUFbek-bKyiBP-2mdHhXu-mYis9M-3bf7Cp-pdmuju-3bf7bi-725zc9 But, it was speedy deleted, without discussion because the image was also on VesselFinder, and because of that, the image was somehow "Copyrighted by VesselFinder" even though VesselFinder images are user-generated content, and the image was used by many news sources without copyright disclaimers. I wanna reupload the image while specifying it's on Flickr, but I'm scared that if I do, I'll be reprimanded. Could you do it for me? Thebrakeman2 (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Thebrakeman2: - that image is not copyright free, it states " All rights reserved " under the date of uploading. It might be possible to use the image under "fair use" rules, but as a standard Liberty ship it could well be argued that any other image on such would also be just as useful. Mjroots (talk) 17:43, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: Ok, how would I go about doing that? Thebrakeman2 (talk) 17:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Thebrakeman2: - You need to read WP:FAIRUSE and WP:FUR. All 10 points of NFCCP need to be met. Mjroots (talk) 18:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: Could you possibly help me with that? Also, which points?
- @Thebrakeman2: - WP:NFCCP - all 10 points have to be met. You're going to struggle to meet point 1 I fear. Mjroots (talk) 19:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: Are there that many other photos of Mongomery in-tact? Thebrakeman2 (talk) 21:31, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- The problem is, that as a standard Liberty ship, she looked no different to hundreds of other Liberty ships. This image conveys the same info and is usable. Mjroots (talk) 06:38, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: Are there that many other photos of Mongomery in-tact? Thebrakeman2 (talk) 21:31, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Thebrakeman2: - WP:NFCCP - all 10 points have to be met. You're going to struggle to meet point 1 I fear. Mjroots (talk) 19:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: Could you possibly help me with that? Also, which points?
- @Thebrakeman2: - You need to read WP:FAIRUSE and WP:FUR. All 10 points of NFCCP need to be met. Mjroots (talk) 18:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: Ok, how would I go about doing that? Thebrakeman2 (talk) 17:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
This image needs to be renamed
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Christopher_Elbert_at_the_National_Railway_Museum,_York,_1982.jpg has several issues in its titling. The subject is named "Christopher Awdry", not "Elbert", and the image was taken in at least 1987 (the book he is reading was published that year). I can't seem to figure out how to rename it myself, so I'm gonna ask you to do it instead (you seem like a good admin). Cheers! 108.48.97.70 (talk) 00:57, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- @108.48.97.70: unfortunately I'm only an admin on en-Wiki, not at Commons. That said, I've put in a request for the file to be moved to the title you suggested. Should be done in a day or two. Mjroots (talk) 05:51, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- The rename to c:File:Christopher Awdry at the National Railway Museum, York, 1982.jpg went through at 06:16 today. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:48, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother, but it appears that only one of the two errors was corrected. The file name still says "1982" instead of 1987, when the book in the photo was published. Shouldn't this be corrected too? If we needed a source for that (and I don't think we do), then it could be easily found. 151.188.25.140 (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- @108.48.97.70: I've put in another rename request. Sorry I missed it first time round! Mjroots (talk) 18:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother, but it appears that only one of the two errors was corrected. The file name still says "1982" instead of 1987, when the book in the photo was published. Shouldn't this be corrected too? If we needed a source for that (and I don't think we do), then it could be easily found. 151.188.25.140 (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- The rename to c:File:Christopher Awdry at the National Railway Museum, York, 1982.jpg went through at 06:16 today. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:48, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Places
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Queenstown
Thanks - if you could just remind me which article I did that on I can change it?— Rod talk 18:28, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- I now see you changed the dab on List of shipwrecks in April 1851. Thanks.— Rod talk 18:31, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- I probably did it that way because Queenstown, County Cork doesn't appear at Queenstown.— Rod talk 18:48, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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Help in requesting a page be moved.
I'm not exactly sure how to propose a page being moved, so, could I ask you, the resident "transportation admin", for help. I want to move Lee Hall station to Lee Hall Depot under WP:CommonName, as "station" is much more rarely used than "Depot", like in articles, the NRHP listing, travel sites, etc. This would be the third step in one of the multiple things I wanna do involving the page, the first and second, being category reform and making descriptions on other pages more accurate, are complete. The next step is massive page revamps, and the page is massively outdated, and undersized.
Thanks for the help, signed - 108.45.170.249 (talk) 15:35, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- @108.45.170.249: I can move the article over the redirect, but is "depot" capitalized or not? You can always file a move request at WP:RM, in this case under "technical requests" as I don't think there will be much controversy with the move. Mjroots (talk) 15:57, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- The redirect has depot capitalized, and I'd say that most sources capitalize it, and that most "Bla Bla Station"/"PLACEHOLDER Depot" make the Station part capitalized. 108.45.170.249 (talk) 16:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- @108.45.170.249: I've moved the article for you. The lede will need rewriting to cover both titles. BTW, you don't need to use {{Re}} on someones's talk page. Mjroots (talk) 16:24, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the tip, and the help. Would you mind moving https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lee_Hall_station and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16894038 for me? Thanks - 108.45.170.249 (talk) 23:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC).
- @108.45.170.249: I can't move Commons stuff. You'll have to put in a move request for that over at Commons. As for Wikidata, Tagishsimon and Pigsonthewing are the experts. Mjroots (talk) 06:15, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- @108.45.170.249 Wikidata done. Will do commons once I'm not on my mobile. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Commons now done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:00, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- ::Thank you so much @Pigsonthewing:! 108.45.170.249 (talk) 13:08, 22 May 2022 (UTC).
- @108.45.170.249: I can't move Commons stuff. You'll have to put in a move request for that over at Commons. As for Wikidata, Tagishsimon and Pigsonthewing are the experts. Mjroots (talk) 06:15, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the tip, and the help. Would you mind moving https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lee_Hall_station and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16894038 for me? Thanks - 108.45.170.249 (talk) 23:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC).
- @108.45.170.249: I've moved the article for you. The lede will need rewriting to cover both titles. BTW, you don't need to use {{Re}} on someones's talk page. Mjroots (talk) 16:24, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- The redirect has depot capitalized, and I'd say that most sources capitalize it, and that most "Bla Bla Station"/"PLACEHOLDER Depot" make the Station part capitalized. 108.45.170.249 (talk) 16:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

The article German trawler V 206 Otto Bröhan has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
No evidence of any notability, just a name among many in some lists, and an entry in Lloyd's which doesn't indicate any notability. No actual reliable, indepth sources about this ship apparently. Perhaps there is a good redirect target?
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Nomination of German trawler V 206 Otto Bröhan for deletion
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Hi again! Could you run a Citation Bot on Lee Hall Depot
I’ve been expanding the article a lot, but with reciting and all that, the citations are getting messy. So, since I can’t, could you run the Citation Bot on the page for me? Thanks for all the help. 108.45.170.249 (talk) 22:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC).
- @108.45.170.249: - I don't run any bots. Will take a look at the article for you. Mjroots (talk) 06:00, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ref #1 is a deadlink. Refs #3, 10 and 17 not available in UK so I can't tell if its dead or alive. Ref #9 I get an access denied message. Refs #11 and 15 are to Facebook, fails WP:RS. Ref #16 unavailable (in UK) due to legal reasons. Mjroots (talk) 06:13, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, so I updated Ref 1, amd Refs 3, 10, 17, 9, and 16 all work fine for me. And, for Refs 11/15, if's their official Facebook page. It's like their official website since the old one was taken down. Also, when I said, run a citation bot, I meant to use this thing: https://citations.toolforge.org/ 108.48.97.70 (talk) 09:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC).
- Ref #1 is a deadlink. Refs #3, 10 and 17 not available in UK so I can't tell if its dead or alive. Ref #9 I get an access denied message. Refs #11 and 15 are to Facebook, fails WP:RS. Ref #16 unavailable (in UK) due to legal reasons. Mjroots (talk) 06:13, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Nuneham Railway Bridge
I can't see the Sunday Times article that you cite, as it is behind a pay wall. But I wonder whether you have quoted it accurately in that the current problem is with the *south* abutment, not the north one. The north abutment is solidly built and is causing no problems. Should your second sentence perhaps read "It stated that the south abutment should have been completely rebuilt, but this was not done due to the Great Depression"? TedColes (talk) 10:17, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- @TedColes: try this link, which should allow you access to the article and give you access to a 1 month free trial of The Times and The Sunday Times. I might have misread the article, will edit the bridge article. Mjroots (talk) 10:34, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. TedColes (talk) 15:44, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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Croydon (Woodside) to East Grinstead
Hi, I see from Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Railways/Sources that you have Country Railway Routes: Croydon (Woodside) to East Grinstead - are you able to add content to Riddlesdown railway station? See also Wikipedia talk:Notability#RfC: Notability and British Rail stations. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I can. Currently creating the last missing Kent station, Margate East. I'll see if I can add anything before the Grand Prix starts at 12:00 BST, otherwise it will have to wait until after the race. Mjroots (talk) 10:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- There wasn't much I could add. Gave the article a slightly better structure though. Mjroots (talk) 13:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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Rivers
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Mike I feel quite pleased with myself! I had found the relatively new Geobox|rivers at River Trent and investigated. You will now see the result at this article (I took an easy one first!). There may well be other information - I couldn't work out the coordinates, and in any case a river covers more than one; couldn't find the exact length; and dunno if there is anywhere to be able to get flow rates etc. You may well be able to add more tributaries - I took the ones you had alraedy mentioned under the mills. None of the blanks come out until you give some information. I had also discovered the exact location of the source - a historical document on the Medway; I'm sure you also know more about its course, although perhaps that isn't too important. Peter Peter Shearan (talk) 21:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Mill symbols
As you see I have put two new symbols into your sandbox article. Just a quick fix. Using mills in this way is quite an extension. Come September we need to define what symbols we need- mills with weirs for example, millponds goits. I have been visiting the Dark Peak and realise how much more important water engineering was in the 1780s and the growth of the Cotton Industry. Still I am taking a break now. ClemRutter (talk) 08:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- I have been talking with guys at WP:RIVERS and trying to work out what icon system to recommend. In a nutshell, the cyan worms are out, rivers are dark blue unless you need to differentiate- then non-navigable are light blue and navigable are darkblue. but I am still working on it. You have source at the top. River Len, Kent seems to be correct. See also Manchester Ship Canal for an upside down example. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers#Route diagrams gives the discussion.--ClemRutter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Cadeau
fr:Fichier:LeteaMill.jpg is heel mooi! --ClemRutter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Medway diagram
This takes a little thought. I like diagrams- very useful for showing mill locations- but there is a convention on canals that navigable should be darkblue and non navigable light blue. The tails as steams meet the river seem clunky. I have been concerned about the representation of reservoirs for some time- is a reservoir navigable or not- how do you show the dam bypass channel. In the simple case: a truncated salami would do- but they often are constructed at the confluence of several rivers. A lot of icons need some thought- and that will take a little time- I will put it on the list. (Some mills are on the wrong bank but that is minor). --ClemRutter (talk) 11:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- I have put in far too many hours playing with the diagram on my talk page. Please look over- and see if there is anything to add- you will need to proof read the position of the mills relative to the new locks, and the addition of the Beult and the two mouths of the Teise. I have added some new icons to Template:Waterways legend particularly putting curved dams on reservoirs. --ClemRutter (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
To be positive: it is getting there. A few of your changes I don"t like. A river is a hydrographical item, as well as cultural one. The first uncollapsed diagram needs to stand in its own right, and give the reader basic infomation about its course. The collapsed bits need to show the twidddly bits, that the Teise at Yalding has bifurcated, and where mills were situated. When the course is a navigation we need info on the locks. Background colour needs to show whether the river is tidal, a navigation, or non-navigable. The section names are taken from the NRA, and are used by the waterways community- I don't think Lower Mid Upper is really informative. The whole diagram (uncollapsed) needs to be complete and informative in itself. I think that we should do another round of rollbacks and improvement then wrap it in a template and ask the WP:RIVERS for comment on any points where policy decisions need to be made. I would like to use it as a model to be attached to their policy page. I then want to code up the River Etherow, Irk, Irwell, Medlock, Goyt can't you just smell the cotton. --ClemRutter (talk) 13:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, width is critical when using collapsable box- expand all the section to see it isn't broken by the change. Titles a lot better- I took one look and thought- I knew I was about to to do that-- but I can't remember having done it. These wretched dock icons look awful- I am going to redo them- I cant see why a narrow dock should be five times wider than the river. I am more concerned about the length if the diagram, then allowing the diagram to be included in Kent pages that make a mention to the Medway. Then into Infoboxes.I am uploading images along the commons:Portland Basin- Ashton Canal at the moment.--ClemRutter (talk) 11:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Do you know this one? Template:Medway Navigation--ClemRutter (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
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- Well it is certainly ready to be wrapped in a template- so I have. We can do further editing there {{River Medway map}}. I did do one change as the Tidal estuary is downstream from Rochester.
True. There is a limit to the sort of ship you can drive under Rochester Bridge. I think the commissioner of HM Dockyard would agree with me. The London Stone is at Upnor, which is/was the upstream limit of the Port of London- but Rochester is miles from the Swale or Thames. This wrretched river never does things simply!--ClemRutter (talk) 08:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Rivers
I have been putting a bit of input into Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers; that may interest you. Later tonight I will be posting some of the changes. --ClemRutter (talk) 17:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I notice you have updated the River Waveney map, but was a little surprised to see that it now runs from south to north. One of the problems of the transposition is that several of the adjoining rivers are now shown on the wrong side. Oulton Broad should be on the other side, as should the River Yare, and the Haddiscoe cut is no longer clearly labelled. I was going to try to sort it out but am a bit short of time at the moment. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- I am back from holiday now, and have moved Oulton Broad, Haddiscoe Cut and the River Bure back to where they should be, corrected the direction of the locks, and produced a windmill symbol for the windmills. However, I have no sources for which side of the river the windmills should be on, and as the river and Haddiscoe Cut have now been transposed, wondered if you could just check them. Thanks. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, given your interest in France and transport and the fact that it's been sitting weeks, I wondered if you'd care to review this one for GA? If you;re not feeling very well I understand though, sorry to hear about that. Your talk page could do with archiving though its 159 kb! Hope you had a good Christmas!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Ships
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Category:Fishing in West Germany has been nominated for deletion
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Beta
If you're interested in creating an article on the ship based on the pages you found, you can use information about her from my sandbox. Viriditas (talk) 09:48, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I've started an article at User:Mjroots/Beta (1864 barque). The situation is slightly complicated by a 1,000 ton full-rigged ship of the same name built in 1859 by Thomas Royden & Sons, Liverpool which was later re-rigged as a barque. Our ship had Captain Fernie as its master at the beginning of its career. Mjroots (talk) 13:14, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good. If you’re interested in getting credit for a double, triple, or quadruple DYK, you could submit the article about the Beta and my sandbox article (in whatever form, perhaps shortened or not) about Scandinavian migration to Hawaii. The Beta is known as the first ship that started the migration. But you could take it a step further by creating additional articles on the German ships Musca and Cedar, as those three ships represent the entirety of the Scandinavian migration to Hawaii from 1880 to 1881. Viriditas (talk) 16:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: - Scandinavian migration to Hawaii is way outside my area of expertise. Why don't you add to the article, and I'll move it to mainspace when you've done. Not sure about the other two ships. Cedar is going to be difficult to research due to her name. Mjroots (talk) 16:59, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, why don’t we coordinate a double hook between the two articles? I will move my sandbox article (in a shortened form) to main space while also coordinating the hook between the two with a minor update. We can use the image of the Beta to lead the hook in the first position. Viriditas (talk) 17:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: If you want to nominate the ship article for a DYK feel free to do so. Mjroots (talk) 17:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just trying to find out what you think is best. That’s my proposal up above. If it doesn’t interest you, I won’t do anything. I think the two articles would work well together as a double hook since the Beta is considered the first ship to have started the Scandinavian arrival in Hawaii and the image would look great on the main page. If you have other ideas, that’s fine too. Viriditas (talk) 17:15, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: If you want to nominate the ship article for a DYK feel free to do so. Mjroots (talk) 17:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, why don’t we coordinate a double hook between the two articles? I will move my sandbox article (in a shortened form) to main space while also coordinating the hook between the two with a minor update. We can use the image of the Beta to lead the hook in the first position. Viriditas (talk) 17:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: - Scandinavian migration to Hawaii is way outside my area of expertise. Why don't you add to the article, and I'll move it to mainspace when you've done. Not sure about the other two ships. Cedar is going to be difficult to research due to her name. Mjroots (talk) 16:59, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good. If you’re interested in getting credit for a double, triple, or quadruple DYK, you could submit the article about the Beta and my sandbox article (in whatever form, perhaps shortened or not) about Scandinavian migration to Hawaii. The Beta is known as the first ship that started the migration. But you could take it a step further by creating additional articles on the German ships Musca and Cedar, as those three ships represent the entirety of the Scandinavian migration to Hawaii from 1880 to 1881. Viriditas (talk) 16:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Open query here. Viriditas (talk) 22:10, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
List of ships launched in 1677
I've been going through the excellent ships launched pages which you created back in 2019 primarily doing linkage on the French ships. On 1677 you had duplicated the list for 1667. Thought I would let you know in case you still have your original work and/or wanted to ensure completeness of the series of lists Lyndaship (talk) 15:45, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Lyndaship: - oops, must have had a brainfart. Have expanded with ships launched in 1677 from Threedecks. Mjroots (talk) 17:24, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Oceanic Steamship Company
I've been trying to fix up a sub-article in my sandbox related to Jules Tavernier and his Hawaii series of paintings. I found out that he first arrived in Hawaii on the SS Alameda (1883). I notice that article is a bit of a mess. Then I noticed there's a nice list of all of the ships that ran from the West Coast to Hawaii in the late 19th century for the Oceanic Steamship Company (OSC) but many of the ships don't have articles or are poorly written. There were 17 ships all told under the OSC before it was bought out by Matson in 1926. I'm thinking we should have a separate article on the Oceanic Steamship Company that lists these ships? Thought you might like to see the list:
- Emma Augusta (1867)
- Australia (1875)
- Zealandia (1875)
- Suez (1876)
- Claus Spreckels (1879)
- Rosario (1879)
- John D. Spreckels (1880)
- Consuelo (1880)
- Anna (1881)
- W.H. Dimond (1881)
- William G. Irwin (1881)
- SS Alameda (1883)
- Mariposa (1883)
- Salina ?
- SS Sierra (1900)
- Sonoma (1900)
- Ventura (1900)
Let me know your thoughts. Could make for an interesting DYK on your part... Viriditas (talk) 22:36, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: - you missed that Mariposa also has an article. One possibility is a List of ships of the Oceanic Steamship Company, giving a brief history of each ship. As for researching the ships and company, it looks like there are likely to be sources available - California Digital Newspaper Collection 1849–1920, Library of Congress — American newspapers 1836–1922 and Historic Oregon Newspapers 1846–2020. The Pacific Marine Review is available for 1917-50, all linked from WP:SHIPS/R#Country specific resources. Mjroots (talk) 05:02, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. Peter G Werner expressed interest in taking lead in terms of splitting the info out into a new article, so I hope he shows up here to participate. I have no real opinion as to whether there should be one article on the Oceanic Steamship Company, a separate list, or both, and I suppose one could argue all three positions. I assume the ships project has their way of doing things and I won't stand in anyone's way. Werner has mentioned additional sources we can draw upon. Viriditas (talk) 09:10, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Peter, are you up for User:Peter G Werner/Oceanic Steamship Company? It would give us ample time to work on it without having to worry about DYK deadlines, etc. Viriditas (talk) 09:20, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- I see no reason why we can't also work on User:Mjroots/List of ships of the Oceanic Steamship Company. If necessary, we can merge the two, or even keep them separate and just summarize in the OSC article. Many ways to do it. Viriditas (talk) 09:23, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- I can help, but right now, I'm a busy student with a full load of technical classes, so my time to take on extracurricular projects is limited.
- I can suggest some sources about the overall company (not so much the individual ships):
- Adler, Jacob (1960). "The Oceanic Steamship Company: A link in Claus Spreckels' Hawaiian sugar empire". Pacific Historical Review. 29 (3): 257–269. doi:10.2307/3636164. Later revised as a chapter of:
- Adler, Jacob (1966). Claus Spreckels: The Sugar King in Hawaii. University of Hawaii Press. ISBN 978-0-87022-007-4.
- Bonura, Sandra E. (2020). Empire Builder: John D. Spreckels and the Making of San Diego. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press. ISBN 978-1-4962-2291-6.
- Spiekermann, Uwe (2022). "Expanding the frontier(s): The Spreckels family and the German- American penetration of the Pacific, 1870–1920". In Berghoff, Hartmut; Biess, Frank; Strasser, Ulrike (eds.). Explorations and Entanglements: Germans in Pacific Worlds from the Early Modern Period to World War I. Berghahn Books. pp. 169–194. doi:10.1515/9781789200294-010. ISBN 978-1-78920-029-4.</ref>
- Adler, Jacob (1960). "The Oceanic Steamship Company: A link in Claus Spreckels' Hawaiian sugar empire". Pacific Historical Review. 29 (3): 257–269. doi:10.2307/3636164. Later revised as a chapter of:
- Peter G Werner (talk) 13:08, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks to you both! Viriditas (talk) 21:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- I've added some new content over at User:Viriditas/sandbox48, but it's nowhere near ready and needs work. Viriditas (talk) 23:25, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- I think we can turn this into another double DYK nom. Viriditas (talk) 02:14, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Do I have your blessing to submit these two as a double nom tomorrow? I will of course do a review and update first. Viriditas (talk) 09:16, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- In other words, are you ready to move your list into mainspace? Viriditas (talk) 09:25, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: - yes, it is ready to be moved. I'll do that now. Mjroots (talk) 09:50, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Great! I’ve moved my content to the former redirect. It needs a bit of tightening and I need to remove the cite needed tag from yours before I can submit the DYK, but we are almost there. Viriditas (talk) 11:28, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Update: working on all the issues now. It might take me another day to fix everything to spec. Viriditas (talk) 22:36, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Great! I’ve moved my content to the former redirect. It needs a bit of tightening and I need to remove the cite needed tag from yours before I can submit the DYK, but we are almost there. Viriditas (talk) 11:28, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Do I have your blessing to submit these two as a double nom tomorrow? I will of course do a review and update first. Viriditas (talk) 09:16, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- I think we can turn this into another double DYK nom. Viriditas (talk) 02:14, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- I've added some new content over at User:Viriditas/sandbox48, but it's nowhere near ready and needs work. Viriditas (talk) 23:25, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks to you both! Viriditas (talk) 21:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. Peter G Werner expressed interest in taking lead in terms of splitting the info out into a new article, so I hope he shows up here to participate. I have no real opinion as to whether there should be one article on the Oceanic Steamship Company, a separate list, or both, and I suppose one could argue all three positions. I assume the ships project has their way of doing things and I won't stand in anyone's way. Werner has mentioned additional sources we can draw upon. Viriditas (talk) 09:10, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
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List_of_shipwrecks_in_August_1878 - Jospehina
In List_of_shipwrecks_in_August_1878, I believe you added the last one for the tricolor. the ship it colided with is shown as the Jospehina. Is that the correct spelling or should it be the Josephina?Naraht (talk) 00:01, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Naraht: it was Josephina. Well spotted! Mjroots (talk) 05:03, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Going through wikipedia looking for Joseph mispelling, that just happened to be a hit on the way that I searched.Naraht (talk) 10:49, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
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Hi. Is it possible to put an indefinite requirement for editors to have autoconfirmed or confirmed access to 2018 FIA Formula 3 European Championship article? If you look to the history of edits here is the same persistent vandalism from people who can't understand a racing license concept like in case with Kamui Kobayashi and [2]. Cheers. Corvus tristis (talk) 05:22, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Corvus tristis: - I've looked at the article and Marino Sato's article and I can't find a source that says he is racing under a San Marino licence. If you can add a source for that and the disruption continues, I'll be happy to semi-protect. Mjroots (talk) 05:36, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Done. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2018_FIA_Formula_3_European_Championship&diff=prev&oldid=861115039 Corvus tristis (talk) 05:57, 25 September 2018 (UTC)- Hi. Despite note and reference the situation remains the same... [3] This season contains many drivers with racing license differs from their actual nationality, so it will always confuse casual reader, can you put semi-protection now? Thanks. Corvus tristis (talk) 10:37, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Corvus tristis: - 3 months' should be enough. Mjroots (talk) 10:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Nationality and license issue
Hi, there is again problem with IP editors how are not able to understand the racing license concept in Motorsport. Here we have more than a dozen reverts of Mahaveer Raghunathan flag. It happens despite the note and reference for his license, so the semi-protection could really help. Corvus tristis (talk) 06:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Corvus tristis: - semi'd for 3 months. Mjroots (talk) 06:52, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hi - hope you are well. Incase you didn't get the ping, I mentioned you here. I hope the notification for the AfD was OK - IE netural per your last comment (which I've linked in that thread). If there's anything amiss with that, please let me know. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:41, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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Fixed Mjroots (talk) 16:22, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
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11 vs eleven
If you look closely, I was only making the use of 11 consistent with multiple similar instances in the article. We have both the numeral and the word spelled out throughout, so we should choose one. Let me know if you want to fix or I can jump back in. Cheers. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 10:57, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Dreameditsbrooklyn: Apologies, I missed that. My personal preference is to spell out numbers up to twenty. Either revert my reversion or alter all the others. Your choice. Mjroots (talk) 11:01, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
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Hi Mjroots: This is a request for advice, not an attempt to canvas for support. I am asking you directly for advice given your knowledge as an Admin of WP procedures. I hope doing so removes any issue of canvassing. Currently User:Fram is unilaterally, and at an increasing pace, redirecting articles I have written on 18th & 19th century vessels. I believe that they are doing this to avoid the AfD process, which can take a while and where the outcome is uncertain. (AfDs are more visible and lead to other editors trying to improve the article.) I would like to revert all the redirects but am concerned about triggering retaliation. User:Fram has just proposed for deletion a ship index page where another editor moved articles Fram had redirected. I am a bit at my wit's end. Thoughts? Thanks for considering this.Acad Ronin (talk) 13:11, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Acad Ronin: - Had a brief look at Fram's contributions. Agree that it appears that the AfD process is being circumvented. A nomination can lead to article improvement. Suggest you ask him to stop as a first step, then revert the redirects with an edit summary to take to AfD. Should he continue after being asked to stop, then it's off to ANI. Mjroots (talk) 13:17, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. That's very helpful. Acad Ronin (talk) 16:16, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Social_Responsibility_Score
Hi there
I recently contributed an article of the title of this topic which appeared to be written in a neutral style and is of the public interest. It was quick deleted which I don't believe to be fair. In addition, the article has no backup and took a long time to write. Another article on NPS, a direct comparison also of public interest, is also available on Wikipedia
Could you please help me a) recover the work and b) understand why it was deleted? It is not promotional. I can see that the admin who deleted it is quick to delete articles without following due course.
Thank you Timginger (talk) 11:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Timginger: Firstly you should discuss this with the admin who deleted the article as it would appear that they are currently active. I'm not willing to intervene until this has been done. This may not be the answer you wanted, and I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but an admin doesn't revert other admins decisions without good reason. You may well have a good case for undeletion, but discuss if with him/her first. Are you sure that the draft didn't come under WP:CSD criteria? I've had a look at the deleted draft (something I can do as an admin) and I will comment that it was woefully under referenced. FYI, when using {{cite web}} a minimum of {{cite web |url= |title= |publisher= |access-date= }} is needed. You were missing the
|access-date=parameter. Mjroots (talk) 11:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)- Yes sorry I'm new to this and had done my best to write a relevant article with references. I will contact the admin, and revert if I am unsuccessful in moderating the ability to respond. Are you able to provide access to the content from the original article? It took a long time to write and if it's not published here, now, I'd like to retain it for my records. Thanks Timginger (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Timginger: I can provide the text of the draft. Do you have e-mails enabled? Mjroots (talk) 12:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @mjroots I do have emails enabled I think. Appreciate your help. Contacting the admin who deleted the article now for their feedback. Timginger (talk) 12:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Timginger: I can provide the text of the draft. Do you have e-mails enabled? Mjroots (talk) 12:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes sorry I'm new to this and had done my best to write a relevant article with references. I will contact the admin, and revert if I am unsuccessful in moderating the ability to respond. Are you able to provide access to the content from the original article? It took a long time to write and if it's not published here, now, I'd like to retain it for my records. Thanks Timginger (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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