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Biography of Yusof Bin Ishak (Pre-President)

On 12 August 1910, Yusof was born in Perak. His father was a civil servant with the British governor. Yusof’s ancestors were descended from the Minangkabau ethnic group, which originates from West Sumatra.

The Minangkabau was an independent group, believing in the principals of cooperation, democracy and social justice. The Minangs also stresses on the importance of education. Yusof’s father often shares stories from Minang folklore with his children, as well as the principles they live by.

At that time, sultans had considerable political power in Malaya. In contrast to the Minangs, the sultans rule autocratically. Their status was divine, and it is considered treason to go against the wish of a sultan or his nobles. Under the sultan’s feudal system, the sultan is at the top of the social class, followed by nobles, the common people, and lastly the slaves. The common people had to pay high taxes with no means of improving their quality of life, and when they can’t, they are demoted to slaves for the sultans and nobles.

Yusof’s father firmly believes in English education for his child. Yusof attended Victoria bridge school. At Victoria, he was awarded distinctions in the Cambridge exams. When he graduated, and wanted to move on to the Malay College (the top English school for Malays at that time), his application was rejected because he was a commoner, as opposed to the flocks of nobles who attended the college year after year. Instead, Yusof enrolled at Raffles institution, in the Queen’s scholarship class. At Raffles, Yusof for the first time of his life mingled with youths from other races and ethnic groups. It is believed that his belief in multi-racialism was developed there. Yusof also took up leadership posts, becoming a school prefect, and second lieutenant in NCC, in addition, he was co-editor of the Rafflesian.

After graduation from Raffles, his poor father could not afford to send him overseas for further education, Yusof had failed to win the Queen’s scholarship; he therefore enrolled at the Police Academy in Malaya. However, police officer posts were usually reserved for child of nobles. For Yusof, due to his excellent performance in the NCC, he was promised an officer post. Unfortunately, before Yusof could complete his training, he was expelled for treason. Yuosf had confronted a noble-officer on his ill-treatment of his servants. His rejection from the Malay college, and expel from the police academy also affirmed his detest of the Sultan system in Malaya.

Yusof returned to Singapore to start a business, however he failed. After which, he helped his friend to publish the Sportsman, and later took up the post of clerk with the Warta Malaya, a newspaper on Arab business affairs.

Yusof was determined to help the common Malays here improve their living conditions, and stand up for their rights and justice. He also wanted to advocate multi-racialism. With his experience as a clerk in the Warta Malaya, he and his group of like minded friends helped to raised funds for the Utusan Malayu – the newspaper by Malays, for Malays. Yusof traveled throughout Johor and Singapore, getting both rich businessmen, and poor farmers, to purchase shares in the newspaper.

As editor-in-chief of Utusan Melayu, he was a stern and strict boss, though with good leadership, discipline and was thrifty, as commonly agreed among his employees. Utusan Melayu continuously campaigned for social equality and multi-racialism. Though Utusan Malayu campaigned for Malay rights, it never blamed the other races for the economic situation of Malay peasants in Malaya.

“Blaming the other races does not help in any way to uplift the status of the Malays in the country… Blame should fall on the Malay themselves for not using the opportunities that are available, because God had given determination and intelligence to all races in equal measures, and there should be no excuses…” Yusof bin Ishak

During World War II, Yusof stubbornly refused to acknowledge air-raid sirens, for he was determined to continue publications of Utusan Melayu as far as possible. Only when planes were seen passing directly above the look-out-point on the roof of his office, that his employees were allowed to evacuate. For this reason, Utusan Melayu indeed continued to be published, up to the invasion of Singapore.

It was believed that, events in World War II had convinced Yusof that, the British colonist were inadequate to protect Malaya. Utusan Melayu became strongly anti-colonist after the war, when it resumed operations. By 1945, Utusan Melayu had become a key newspaper, in the struggle for freedom, independence and social justice.

During the 1950 Maria Hertogh Incident, the Utusan Melayu remained neutral and objective in its reporting. In contrast, other newspapers became biased and began baseless reporting and accusations, fanning up the tensions within the Malay community. This lead to the banning of numerous newspapers, but Utusan Melayu was spared.

Notably, the office of Utusan Melayu became an important meeting place for many key people who were also campaigning for social justice, multi-racialism and the end of colonialism. An important person Yusof met at his office at such discussions was Lee Kuan Yew.

In 1946, the Malayan Union Scheme was proposed by the British. Under the scheme, the Sultans’ political power would be removed, leaving only power over religious and cultural matters. While Yusof is probably delighted at this proposal, he was worried about the second proposal, where Malaya citizenship rights would be granted to all, regardless of race as long they had resided in Malay for a period of time. Yusof was worried that, granting citizenship to so many non-Malays would upset the Malay community, as it would threaten their political rights. At the same time, a political party by the name of United Malay National Organisation (UMNO) was set-up, to contest the British’s proposals. With the help of the Utusan Melayu, the proposal was defeated. The first president of UMNO wrote a letter to thank Yusof. After negotiation with Malayan leaders, the British withdrew the Malayan union scheme, and replaced it with the Federation of Malaya. The Federation came into existence in 1948. While the issues on Citizenship rights were addressed, Yusof was “horrified” to know that, the political powers of the Sultans were restored. From the point on, the Utusan Melayu became increasingly critical of the UNMO.

The UMNO retaliated by buying over shares in the Utusan, soon, they were in majority control. Yusof was ordered to sack a reporter (Samad Ismail), who had written numerous anti-UMNO articles. Yusof was unwilling to sack his long-time friend Samad, Samd however eventually resigned to join a rival newspaper. Without his long time pal, Samad supporting him, and the UMNO asserting its control in the Utusan, Yusof decided to resigned and retire. He intended to spend his retirement rearing orchid as a living.

In 1959, the PAP won the state election in self-governing Singapore. Lee Kuan Yew, now the leader of the government, invited Yusof to take office as the Head of Public Services Commissions. Shortly after, Yusof was nominated to become the first Yang di Pertuan Negara (Head-of-State) of Singapore. On 3 December 1959 at the Padang, Majulah Singapura was played, the State Flag and State Crest was unveiled, and Yusof was sworn in as the Head-of-State.

Though Yusof was a commoner, he as a Yang di Pertuan Negara, was to be recognised as an equal with the Sultans. The Sultan of Brunei sent a medal to congratulate and mark Yusof as his equal. The Malaya sultans were however less than happy.

Reasons for Yusof’s Appointment as Head of State

Firstly, Yusof was a Malay with strong nationalist credentials and seen as a credible leader among the Malay community, due to his role in the Utusan. Secondly, Yusof was a strong advocate of Multi-racialism. Lastly, Yusof had strong links to Malaya; his brother was a minister in Malaya.

At that time, Lee Kuan Yew needs to dispel Singapore’s image as the “third China”, by installing a non-Chinese as head of state. Being a country with diverse races and cultures, Singapore also needed a leader believing in multi-racialisim. Singapore also needs to build a “Malay” image to secure its merger with Malaya. From Lee Kuan Yew’s meeting with Yusof in the Utusan office, he knew Yusof is one who is upright, courteous, calm, and respectable, one who is definitely suitable to be Singapore’s Head of State.

On the other hand, Yusof had accepted his appointment, because he wanted to prove that the Singapore government was not anti-Malay, though with a Chinese majority. He sees his appointment as a chance to encourage the local Malay community to work hard to claim their rightful and equal place in Singapore.

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Thanks for this. Will see how it can be incorporated into the article. Cheers, Jacklee 13:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Singapore never part of Federation of Malaya

Singapore was never part of the Federation of Malaya, which consisted solely of the nine states of what is now called peninsular or west Malaysia. Ishak (which is how is name his written in Singapore) did not 'govern' Singapore, as the post he held was largely ceremonial.

Boffin June 27th 2004 15.58 UTC

An editor has changed references to "Federation of Malaya" to "Federation of Malaysia". Cheers, Jacklee 13:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Prime minister" parameter in infobox

Hi, an editor has been repeatedly removing the "Prime minister" parameter from the infobox without providing any reason. I am of the view that it is useful for this parameter to remain in the infobox as it provides information on who was the prime minister of Singapore during the President's period of office. If there is some disagreement about this, please discuss the matter here instead of simply removing the parameter. Thanks. Cheers, Jacklee 12:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Jawi script name

As editors have noted, "يوسف اسحاق" is the official script form associated with him. Even the mosque that bears his name uses that as the official name, as seen in this picture in the small box to the lower left of the mosque here.

However, IP editor 202.156.181.76 has been changing it repeatedly to "يوسف بن إيشاء" based on his/her reasoning that google translate proves him right. He/she also claimed that the mosque got the name wrong, and will change it in due course.

He is well beyond 3RRR. I will revert once more and direct him to the talk page. If this does not help, this, and his interesting arguments for his change, is going into ANI. Though considering its an IP editor, a page protect will serve just as well. Zhanzhao (talk) 23:40, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for moving the discussion to the talk page. Looking through the edit history, the original version was يوسف بن اسحاق inserted by user Egard89 on 8 May 2012 to an old version of the page Yusof bin Ishak (the current article, Yusof Ishak, was created by redirect from Yusof bin Ishak). This was changed to إيشاء by user 222.165.12.103 on 3 Feb 2017. This was changed back to إسحاق by user Dadran1303 on 29 July 2017, and the back-and-forth began on 30 July 2017.Kbseah (talk) 08:14, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, Kbseah, the IP editor still refuses to provide reliable sources for his/her changes. I requested for page protection and have made the relevant notifications in the edit warring board about his/her refusal to have a discussion. Lets see how this plays out. Zhanzhao (talk) 13:15, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, since the IP editor puts his faith in Google, I ran Google searches on "يوسف بن إيشاء" and "يوسف بن اسحاق" and "يوسف اسحاق". The first returns only copies of this article. The second returns 41 hits, while the third returns nearly 300. Largoplazo (talk) 09:39, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops just realized the picture link I provided previously was broken. Its fixed now. You can see the official name clearly at the lower left corner. Zhanzhao (talk) 09:47, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Largoplazo, further more if you click on the "Image" tab on the search links you provided, its the 2nd one, which is what the IP editor is proposing, is the only one out of the 3 that does NOT return any images of Yusoh Ishak..... Zhanzhao (talk) 09:50, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced material in infobox

Some information in the infobox does not appear to be properly referenced, or mentioned anywhere else in the article. For example,

  • "Nicknames" - "Father of Malay Nationalism" is listed, but other people, e.g. Abdul Rahim Kajai and Muhammad Eunos bin Abdullah have been given this sobriquet.
  • "Nicknames" - a search for "Father of Meritocracy, Multi-racialism and Modernisation of Singapore" on Google will give this article as the only result
  • "Military service" - this section also appears to be inflated. As far as I can tell, he was commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant in the Volunteer Cadet Corps in 1927, as a student in Raffles Institution, and the next military appointment was in 1963 as Colonel of the Singapore Infantry Regiment, which appears to be an ex-officio post as Yang di-Pertuan Negara. This blog post offers some useful information.

Kbseah (talk) 13:36, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've added citation needed tags for the nicknames (and quite a few other things). You might want to challenge anything else that isn't properly referenced. --YewGotUp (talk) 20:53, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@YewGotUp: Thanks for tagging the problematic items in the infobox. Although the Manual of Style WP:INFOBOXREF states that references are acceptable in infoboxes, I personally find that it's easier to keep things consistent and verifiable if material in the infobox is already mentioned and properly referenced in the article body. For that reason I would be inclined to remove the "nicknames" entirely. But first the edit-war has to abate... Best, Kbseah (talk) 07:49, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kbseah: Good to know. It would be great if the contributor added some text in the article body. For now, I am for removing them as well. They can always be added back with the necessary references. --YewGotUp (talk) 11:52, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of officiated events

There is a list of "officiated events and opening ceremonies" that I do not find helpful to the article. Should they be removed? --YewGotUp (talk) 18:19, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Remove WP:NOTDIARY, item 4, applies. Largoplazo (talk) 09:20, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Largoplazo: Thanks, I've gone ahead and removed them since there is WP:NOTDIARY consensus. The editor who put them in can cherry-pick the important ones and add them back if they so desire. --YewGotUp (talk) 14:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Of course I agree with its removal, but please don't call "one person has responded so far and he agreed with me" a consensus! I mean, there must have been a consensus to create WP:NOTDIARY, but the question here is what's being debated, and my application of WP:NOTDIARY to it is my opinion. Whether it's applicable and dispositive here is what we'd need to have a consensus on, if you were looking to have one before acting. Of course, if you felt, once I brought it to your attention, that WP:NOTDIARY was precisely the applicable guideline, then what you've done is satisfied yourself that because there's a clearly applicable guideline, you don't need to achieve a consensus here after all. Which is fine. Largoplazo (talk) 14:39, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, the consensus I was referring to was not from this discussion, but how WP:NOTDIARY came about, presumably from similar articles. --YewGotUp (talk) 14:55, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Huge chunk of changes by 202.156.181.76

  1. He added "Al-Haj" as part of the subjects birth name. As I understand, that designation only applies to people who have completed the Haj pilgrimage, so saying he was born with that name is weird, to say the least.
  2. Redundant and repetitive text mention of the wife officiating each and every single event, when the heading of the section already says its officiated by her.
  3. No consensus on name change, as per above description on JAwi-script.
  4. Removal of citation requests and some sources.
  5. Usage of "Inche" in body of text - WP:MOS has clear guidelines on the use of such extra designations in the body text. Zhanzhao (talk) 10:27, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Two more edits with the same changes and re-inclusion of officiated events I removed per WP:NOTDIARY by Richard Mile (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) since the page got semi-protected: [1] [2]. I'm not very inclined to be baited into another edit war. --YewGotUp (talk) 19:23, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed removal of section "Personal life"

The section "Personal life" is problematic, and has already been tagged as requiring copy-editing. However, I believe that most of the content should be removed, for the following reasons:

  • Tone is non-neutral and almost hagiographic, e.g. "But Yusof relentlessly walked the ground for hours under the searing heat of the sun, ignoring pain in both his legs, visiting every constituents around the island to soothe their fears"
  • Direct quotations attributed to Yusof Ishak are not found in the citations that they are supposedly supported by
  • The citations that I checked do not even mention Yusof Ishak but only provide general background about particular historical periods or events
  • Similarly, most of the content is an essay-like historical narration, with the character of Yusof Ishak only incidentally tacked on

The bulk of the material was added by editor Rizan (and sockpuppet Alberttt52) throughout 2016 and Jan 2017, before he/she was banned for copyright violations (uploaded images).

What could be retained (and the only parts really relevant to the heading "Personal life") are the statements about his orchid-growing, photography, and pilgrimage to Mecca in 1963, which are supported in the citations.

Should the section be trimmed down as suggested above? Thanks -- Kbseah (talk) 22:15, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Some of the other facts, if they're worth keeping and can be supported with references, might be better off in the Political Career sub-section. --YewGotUp (talk) 22:58, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Prefix/Suffix on infobox.

Being BOLD and removing it. Per the discussion here prefixes and suffixes are discouraged. Especially here. Even Dr Martin Luther King and Elizabeth II doesn't get the prefix "Dr" and "Queen" in their infoboxes. Zhanzhao (talk) 07:52, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Portrait

Can we have a real photo of Yusof bin Ishak? Sgweirdo (talk) 13:04, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Prefix and suffix

Prefixes and suffixes must be added because he is a politician, regarding a topic here, the prefix and suffixes is not added for the queen is because the infobox for royalty does not have such templates. MLK has a honorary prefix. 2400:4050:8841:EE00:41B6:83BB:346:EB7C (talk) 13:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

Passed. ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 11:02, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Yusof Ishak/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Actuall7 (talk · contribs) 08:32, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 08:34, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


I wasn't aware this has been at GAN. I will take a look at this, and hopefully I can polish it up for FAC (hoping we can get a major SG article to commemorate SG60).--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 08:34, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and education

  • Yusof was born on 12 August 1910 in Padang Gajah, a kampong village in Terong, Larut, Matang and Selama District, Perak The source only states (in separate statements" that he was born in "Padang Gajah" and "Perak". I might opt to add a source on specifically what settlement is this and where exactly in Perak (the Chew source seems to clarify where the village is, but not whether it was a kampung village unfortunately).
  • Reused some sources to confirm this, does it work? One states that Padang Gajah was in Perak, Malaysia. The other confirms the fact that it was in Terong (called Trong in the source). I have removed the Larut, Matang and Selama District mention as it isn't really important and the fact that it was a kampong village.
  • In 1923, when his family moved to the Straits Settlements (present-day Singapore) after his father was posted there, Yusof studied at Victoria Bridge School. This sentence is rather chunky. Also, the Straits Settlements also generally referred to Melaka and Penang. I might rewrite to: In 1923, when his father was posted to Singapore as director of the Fisheries Department, his family relocated to Singapore and Yusof began studying at Victoria Bridge School.
  •  Done
  • Yusof became the first student to be made an officer, specifically a second lieutenant. – Yusof was the first student to be appointed as an officer, holding the rank of second lieutenant.
  •  Done
  • Mark Ref 10 as dead
  •  Done
  • Yusof initially wanted to pursue law, but was unable to after his study application in London was turned down and his father could not afford to send him to study abroad. – Yusof initially wanted to pursue law, but his study application in London was rejected and his father could not afford to send him overseas.
  •  Done
  • I thought they shouldn't be linked per WP:OL?
  • Yusof was promised promotion to an officer by the Police Commissioner. However, he was later denied the promotion after an incident where he confronted a member of the royal family who mistreated his juniors – Yusof was promised a promotion to officer by the Police Commissioner, but it was later withdrawn after he stood up to a royal family member who had mistreated his juniors. I might also clarify who the royal family member is, or at least specify if it's British or the Selangor monarch (given there were other Malay kings reigning under British protectorship)
  •  Done. As for the royal family member, it is not specified who they were or which monarch they were from, but they were mostly likely from one of the Malaysian royal families (Note that Chew 2015 states But after a quarrel with a senior British Police Officer, he was refused promotion and resigned, but I suspect that this is referring to the Police Commissioner, not the royal family member).

More to come.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 09:29, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Journalism career

  • In Singapore, he began his journalism career after he partnered with two of his Chinese friends – Ong Chin Beng and Soh Swee Tuck – to publish Sportsman, a fortnightly sports magazine devoted entirely to sports This sentence is rather clunky. Might reword to: In Singapore, he began his journalism career by co-founding the fortnightly sports magazine Sportsman with two Chinese friends – Ong Chin Beng and Soh Swee Tuck.
  •  Done
  • In 1932, Yusof joined Warta Malaya, a Malay newspaper with the highest circulation during that time, after his friend Syed Hussein bin Ali Alsagoff invited him to join it. – ...at the invitation of his friend Syed Hussein bin Ali Alsagoff.
  •  Done
  • In 1938, Yusof, along with twenty other Malays, met with the president of the Singapore Malay Union at his home to discuss creating a Malay newspaper that was owned by Malays. – In 1938, Yusof and twenty other Malays met with the president of the Singapore Malay Union to discuss establishing a Malay-owned newspaper.
  •  Done
  • Also who was the president at the time?
  •  Done: added
  • They discussed the feasibility of this idea and whether they would be enough funds for it, given that another member attempted the same idea in 1937 but had to shut down due to a lack of support. – The discussion focused on how to secure sufficient funding, as a similar attempt in 1937 had failed due to lack of support. Trying to avoid repetition of "discuss" from the previous sentence.
  •  Done, though I have tweaked it a little.
  • Their deadline to gather the money was approaching soon and if they were not able to, their project would have failed. – This sentence is redundant
  •  Done: removed
  • To help with the remaining money, members Ambo Sooloh and Daud J. P. raised S$8,500 between themselves, saving the project; in total, S$18,000 was raised – As the deadline approached, members Ambo Sooloh and Daud J. P. contributed S$8,500 between themselves to cover the shortfall and save the project. A total of S$18,000 was raised.
  •  Done
  • Will work on this.
  • successfully founded – "successfully" is redundant
  •  Done
  • a cheap office in Queen Street, the then-red-light district in Singapore, Not sure about the relevance of Queen Street being a red-light district
  •  Done: removed
  • According to one account by who?
  • Doesn't specify, simply states "According to one account", but it could be assumed to be a Utusan Melayu employee.
  • A lookout had been placed on the roof and, only when the planes were directly overhead, would Yusof allow the staff to head to the bomb shelters. – A lookout was stationed on the roof, and Yusof only permitted staff to head to the bomb shelters when enemy planes were directly overhead.
  •  Done
  • he never blamed issues with the Malay on other communities – This part here is a bit awkward. Might rewrite: He never attributed challenges faced by the Malay community to other groups.
  •  Done
  • alongside some other members Like who?
  • Didn't add as they weren't notable, but have added now.
  • In 1948, Yusof addressed the ban on Utusan Zaman, a Singaporean newspaper, in Indonesia. Would elaborate a bit more on this
  •  Done

More to come.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 08:05, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yang di-Pertuan Negara of Singapore (1959–1965)

  • I recommend removing most instances of "then" before titles as in "then-Prime Minister" and so on
  •  Done
  • In December 1959, it was announced by the government that Yusof would succeed Goode on 3 December. – In December 1959, the government announced that Yusof...
  •  Done
  • became a true self-governing state. I'm unsure of the use of "true self-governing state", especially the word "true". Is that stated in source?
  • Have removed the use of "true" for now. Would "fully" or "proper" work better? Have also added a source detailing what his powers were.
  • then-Malaysian Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman. strongly recommend delinking "Malaysian Prime Minister" to avoid WP:SEAOFBLUE
  •  Done
  • Despite Tunku's strong support for his brother to be Goode's successor, to the point where Tunku requested Queen Elizabeth II to intervene, Yusof was still chosen over him. Yusof's brothers Aziz and Abdul Rahim Ishak believed that it was due to his strong pro-Singapore views and his previous reputation with Utusan Melayu that he was chosen. Might rewrite to: Despite Tunku's backing and a request for Queen Elizabeth II's intervention, Yusof was chosen likely due to his pro-Singapore stance and reputation from Utusan Melayu, according to his brothers Aziz and Abdul Rahim.
  •  Done, though I have tweaked it to highlight Tunku's insistence more highly. I think it's important to show that Yusof was still chosen over Tunku's brother despite Tunku's political power at the time.
  • This was especially important at the time as the PAP wanted Singapore to achieve merger with Malaya, and they wanted the support from the Malays. – ...as the PAP sought Singapore's merger with Malaya with the support of the Malays.
  •  Done
  • During his terms, he was known for frequently visiting constituencies across the island. He visited various constituencies over the years, including Bukit Panjang, Bukit Merah, Bukit Timah, Bras Basah, and the Southern Islands. – During his term, he frequently visited various constituencies, including Bukit Panjang, Bukit Merah, Bukit Timah, Bras Basah, and the Southern Islands.
  •  Done
  • In May 1961, Malaysian Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman Delink these because they were linked previously
  •  Done
  • Following this announcement, both Lee and Yusof were strong supporters of the merger with Malaya,... – Both Lee and Yusof strongly supported the proposal,...
  •  Done
  • where he spoke about his support of merging with Malaya. – where he reiterated his support of the merger.
  •  Done
  • It was under the state's new constitution, under which his previous term ended on 3 December 1963. Chief Justice Wee Chong Jin administered his oath of office. – His new term began under the state's revised constitution, following the conclusion of his previous term on 3 December 1963. His oath of office was administered by Chief Justice Wee Chong Jin. Also delink Chief Justice. (generally, I recommend delinking titles.)
  •  Done

More to come.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 11:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments so far, ZKang. One thing I did want to ask about was the general coverage of Yusof as head of state. I tried to make it more extensive, but as the presidency was a ceremonial role, not everything he did was notable enough to be added/was very brief coverage. Furthermore, most modern sources just comment on how he was the head of state, not things he did as head of state. I could probably find more, but that would mean going year by year in NewspaperSG. TLDR: is the coverage of his head of state activities enough? I had previously faced this issue with Benjamin Sheares. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 12:44, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did he go on any diplomatic visits during this term? I understand if theres little coverage of him since hes more of a ceremonial head of state.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 01:53, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have checked, and found basically no coverage of him leaving Singapore. I suspect he was more interested with internal affairs. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 03:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

President of Singapore

  • I don't mind incorporating these sources, but the main issue with researching is coming upon a lot of what I consider to be WP:NOTNEWS, along with the fact that I don't want it to become too overly detailed. For example, I tried to add individual events every month in Wee Kim Wee's article, but I felt it got too detailed/bloated and trimmed it anyways (old diff if you want to see). Will look into this and try to expand his presidency. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 08:23, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also during National Day on 1966, he also inaugurated a music festival [3].

Death

  • No prose problems I can find for "death in office", though I change the title to just "death and funeral"
  • I think there could be more details like how many of the public visited the funeral
  •  Done

Personal life and views

  • This would instil a sense of importance toward education in him, which he would repeat throughout his life. This sentence is a bit awkward, but I'm unsure how to rewrite it.
  • Have rewritten it to This instilled in him the importance of education, which he maintained throughout his life. Does it work?
  • Another concise version could be: This gave him a lifelong appreciation of the importance of education
  •  Done
  • In July 1966, a secondary school named after him, Yusof Ishak Secondary School, was opened. – Would just rewrite and wikilink accordingly: In July 1966, a secondary school named after him was opened.
  •  Done
  • I later saw that footnote 110; would actually shift that information here.
  • Could you clarify this?
  • I mean Ref 124, which states: "Our History". Yusof Ishak Secondary School. Retrieved 8 November 2020. "Yusof Ishak Secondary School was established in 1965 as Jubilee Integrated Secondary School...."
  • Actually, I think the current version is fine, as it feels like repeating information in such a brief timespan.
  • I would actually made a brief mention about him being Chancellor of NUS during his presidency term.
  • Didn't do this in the first place as every president serves as the Chancellor, but have made a mention now.
  • I rather shift that picture of the mosque opening plaque to during his presidential term and add a mention of him inaugurating it as that might be more relevant there
  • Will leave it in the Religion section for now, as he actually opened it in 1963, which was before his presidency.

Legacy

  • Several locations in Singapore bear Yusof's name. This best needs a citation
  •  Done
  • to the Yusof Ishak House Think should be as the Yusof Ishak House
  •  Done
  • The current series of Singapore dollar notes, the portrait series issued from 1999 onwards, features Yusof. – The current portrait series of Singapore dollar notes issued from 1999 onwards features Yusof. or Yusof is featured on the current portrait series of Singapore dollar notes issued from 1999 onwards.
  •  Done

That's all the issues I have for this article. I think it's in somewhat good shape but surprisingly details of his presidency is rather thin. That said, also that's because the presidency is largely ceremonial. The article is also adequately sourced to reliable materials (local news reports and books) about him. Though I still need a website source for FN 120: "Orders and Medals of Yusof Ishak".

Putting on hold.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 07:08, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for your comments. Regarding 120, that was one of the old refs in the article that I left alone. On second glance, it might be a primary source as Yusof seemingly wrote this list of awards he received. I know that it's probably true, as he must've received national awards for his service, but I can't seem to find it in newspapers. Here is the original source, which is a blog. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 09:02, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Checking that through, and doing a quick search of other available sources, I actually doubt he received these awards; otherwise the newspapers would have made the mention. No other sources (and the respective awards pages) mentioned he got them either, especially this Straits Times article talking about our highest awards, and Infopedia at best only lists his foreign awards. Unfortunately, I would have them removed.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 13:37, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did a few more copyedits myself and I'm satisfied with the state of this article. Will be happy to pass. On a side note, if you wish to push this to FA (which I highly encourage to, hopefully in time for SG60), I suggest putting this up to WP:Peer review. But my interim suggestions atm will be changing the "pages" parameter of all sources to just "page" unless it's more than one page. And also adding alt text.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 11:01, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Peer review

Yusof Ishak

This is an article on Singapore's head of state from 1959 to 1970, Yusof Ishak. I am seeking a PR as this article has recently passed a GA, and I was encouraged by ZKang123 to do so before a possible FA nom. If possible, I would like to get this article to be TFA sometime this year, in commemoration of Singapore's 60th year of independence.

Thanks, – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 02:12, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ZKang123

I just reiterate a few points I made in my closing remarks:

  • Besides copyedits, the two major things in an FAC is the image and source reviews.
  • For image reviews, generally I recommend adding WP:ALT for accessibility. Usually it's easy, and personally if the images are under a free license or public domain, it should be fine.
  • For source reviews, since it's your first time putting it to FA, they might do more thorough spot checks. So be prepared to also save the relevant pages of the books they want to review
  • Also, source formatting: they want source titles to be in title case. So use the converter I linked. Also, change the "pages" parameter to just "page" for newspaper sources or those just quoting a single page.

These are all I have. All the best.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 02:37, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your comments, ZKang. Your suggestions both here and at the GAN have been very useful. Just wanted to ask what you think about the quality of the sources used in this article? I am aware of the debate about The Straits Times, but something I would offer is that since Yusof died in 1970, this article mostly uses pre-1970 Straits Times, which was before it was acquired sometime in the early 1980s according to its article. I find it interesting that this hasn't been brought up before (to my knowledge) and would be interested to hear your thoughts on it. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 03:13, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly I felt pre-80s Straits Times to have a higher standard and independence of journalism compared to the current Straits Times. But anyway, my tentative concern is also the contemporary sources used, because one could argue those books are commissioned by the government to rehabilitate or portray past pioneer figures in good light. But truthfully, if you can defend your use of sources, you should be good. --ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 01:45, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it's ready for FAC. Just toss it there and see how it goes.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 02:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't really want to be too hasty with the FA nom as I might just end up nominating an unprepared article. I assume the date planned for the TFA would be 9 August, but I'm also not too sure how realistic that is as it feels a bit rushed, maybe his birth date (12 August) or his death date (23 November) would be better? Ultimately, I myself am not familiar with the average time it takes for a FA nom to be completed, and if you really think the article is in good shape, then I guess I'm fine with closing the PR and taking your advice if you really insist. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 05:16, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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