Talk:Vivian Wilson

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Narutolovehinata5 talk 08:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Converted from a redirect by Horse Eye's Back (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 287 past nominations.

Launchballer 22:36, 23 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Appreciated! Snokalok (talk) 23:02, 23 March 2025 (UTC) (Moved from talk page.--Launchballer 23:41, 23 March 2025 (UTC))[reply]
Hadn't noticed that. The relevant passage is WP:DYKLEN, which says this can count if less than one fifth if the content is copied.--Launchballer 23:39, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that, I've learned someting new. To me it looks like more than a fifth of the article was copied from elsewhere, but before rejecting the review, do you know of any tools that can give us a number on how much of the article isn't original? ―Panamitsu (talk) 01:22, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I don't know how much text is original, I've counted the references and found that 17 out of 39 of them have been accessed in 2025, meaning that 22 of 39 sources were accessed in 2024 and earlier. This indicates that more than one fifth of the article is not new, meaning it is ineligible for DYK according to WP:DYKSPLIT. ―Panamitsu (talk) 01:27, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Jordan Peterson interview summary

The article says that Elon Musk said in his interview with Jordan Peterson that Wilson had been "killed by the woke mind virus." However, I don't think this is an accurate interpretation of Musk's meaning in the interview. Musk said that his son was killed by the woke mind virus, meaning the male identity that Wilson previously carried. This is clear by him previously saying "that is why they call it deadnaming", that is the previous name/identity had been destroyed/killed. I'm not saying I agree with Musk in this, but it is important to quote him accurately. ~2025-35167-67 (talk) 20:27, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't the sentence accomplish this already? "Musk ultimately described her as having been "killed by the woke mind virus" in conjunction with her transition." QRep2020 (talk) 20:42, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Birth Name

Shouldn't her birth name be listed somewhere in the article? ~2025-37333-36 (talk) 01:51, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No. Snokalok (talk) 02:17, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She doesn't appear to have been notable under her deadname, so per WP:DEADNAME, no. LaffyTaffer💬(she/they) 02:17, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello editors,
while I may not be an expert at this, how come we don't list her deadname (birthname) in the 'born' section of the infobox as her birth name, even if she is not notable? If she was named something different than "Vivian Wilson" at birth, even if that is her deadname, how come we shouldn't list it as her birth name? Also her middle name, "Jenna", assuming that is her birth name and she never changed it? I would really appreciate an explanation. Unless, she was born "Vivian Willson" and never changed her name.
Sorry for the questions, I have just never really learned this and this is new to me.
Thank you. CubicCapacityCC (talk) 08:30, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
MOS:GIDINFO may help if WP:DEADNAME wasn't clear. LaffyTaffer💬(she/they) 13:27, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have read Wikipedia's dead name policy and I now understand. However, Wikipedia is used by many people to confirm information, and I think the omission of a notable person's dead name creates the impression that that is not, in fact, their dead name. I think that for most people, a notable person's dead name is a very relevant piece of information, and it is unfortunate that Wikipedia's style guide specifies that it should be omitted unless the person was famous under their dead name. -- leuce (talk) 10:42, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a relevant piece of information if it is merely used as a transphobic harassment tool against her. Médicis (talk) 10:14, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How that information is used isn't relevant, Wikipedia should be built off of accurate and complete objective information. ~2026-16508-6 (talk) 00:19, 9 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The place to argue changes to Wikipedia policy is WP:VP, not this talk page. Wilson was not notable under her birth name, and until MOS:DEADNAME changes, it will not be in the article. LaffyTaffer💬(they/she) 00:22, 9 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong: Wikipedia articles don't have to be fully exhaustive, but to be concise and only retain the essential information. Médicis (talk) 09:18, 9 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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