Talk:Persians

Consider adding Afghanistan/Tajikistans Tajiks as "Persians" ===Related groups=== There are several ethnic groups and communities which are either ethnically or linguistically related to the Persian people, living predominantly in Iran, and also within Afghanistan, the Caucasus, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Oman, and the United Arab Emirates.<ref>{{cite web|year=2005|title=SociolinguistEssex X – 2005|publisher=[[Essex University]]|page=10|url=http://www.essex.ac.uk/langling/documents/slx/slx_x_programme.pdf}}</ref> to ===Related groups=== There are several ethnic groups and communities which are either ethnically or linguistically related to the Persian people, living predominantly in Iran, and also within Afghanistan, the Caucasus, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Oman, and the United Arab Emirates.<ref>{{cite web|year=2005|title=SociolinguistEssex X – 2005|publisher=[[University of Essex]]|page=10|url=http://www.essex.ac.uk/langling/documents/slx/slx_x_programme.pdf}}</ref>

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Again, it has been made a point that the Persian ethnicity does not exist in the Persian language. Instead, Persian equates to Persian speaker or "Farsi zaban". Tajiks or Persians of Afghanistan and Tajikistan identify as the same. They identify from the city they come for e.g."Herati" or "Kabuli". I want to clarify that this is indicative of this article in Persian itself. You can see that a Persian is referred to as Persian speaker an in this case Tajiks are included. فارسی

Tajiks are Persians.

I’m not sure why some editors claim that Tajiks aren’t Persians but here is a WP:RS that defines Tajiks as Persians:

B. A. Litvinsky, Ahmad Hasan Dani (1998). History of Civilizations of Central Asia: Age of Achievement, A.D. 750 to the end of the 15th-century. Excerpt: "...they were the basis for the emergence and gradual consolidation of what became an Eastern Persian-Tajik ethnic identity." pp. 101. UNESCO 2600:1700:158F:A900:F43A:C2E6:D336:C727 (talk) 19:49, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no doubt that Tajiks are Persians. The word Tajik is another name for the Persian people, and in the past, everyone called themselves Persians, but now some want to separate the Persian people. The Roden (talk) 14:03, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We Tajiks are Persians and we will remain Persians. 5.119.153.202 (talk) 16:53, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Im Iranian Persian and these people are anti-Persian panturks, pankurds, pashtuns and even panIranists who have an agenda in attacking Persian identity and unity. Yes Tajiks are our eastern Persian brothers and more of a brother to us than people like kurds, even Iranian Kurds. We are all Persian peoples. ~2025-41972-79 (talk) 11:00, 7 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Indigenous people of West Asia?

Currently this article and its parent category are in Category:Indigenous peoples of West Asia, and I don't think that's applicable here. Is indigenous being used to mean "autochonous", or the sociopolitical definitions described on Indigenous peoples? Arctic Circle System (talk) 22:53, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We Tajiks are from the Persian people

We Tajiks are Persians and we will remain Persians. 5.119.153.202 (talk) 16:56, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tajiks!

The editor has completely excluded Tajiks and their countries! There are around 30-35 million Tajiks and also other groups of people who do not live in iran and are referred as Persians too! Not only to Iran! 82.132.223.21 (talk) 10:17, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

4 November 2025

Greetings @Ilamxan. First, this is English Wikipedia, not Farsi Wikipedia. Then, if you know the rules, other wikis are not our source. Meanwhile, in Farsi Wikipedia, Persian is written as Persian-speakers because it also includes other Persian-speakers, such as Hazaras and from other countries too. This page only refers to the Persian people, not all Persian speakers.

Persians always call themselves Persian (Fars or Parsi). Persians do not introduce themselves as Persian-speaker. Because it's obvious that their language is Persian.

The Persian people are mentioned in all historical and academic sources.

Your words are unsourced and incorrect. If this destructive method continues, I will have to report you to the administrators. The Roden (talk) 21:21, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

Regarding religion, there are major edits and overhauls required for the Persian and Iranian pages. Polling sites like GAMAAN have reported a significant decline in the Muslim population and the rapid growth of atheists, Zoroastrians, and Christians. Firekong1 (talk) 04:11, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You people will do anything to lower the Persian population

Notice how anyone who speaks arabic as a first language or even dialects and different languages descended of arabic is considered arab, same with turks, same with pashtuns (despite khiljis being of turkic ancestry and yusufzai being sistani Persian in origin) or “kurdish” in reality 10 different languages that arent even mutually intelligible like kurmanji, sorani, gorani, feyli, kermanshahi kalhori, feyli, half of these being totally different and closer standard Persian (cause they’re descended of middle Persian Parsig), yet Tajiks, tats, Luris, bakhtiaris, mazandaranis, hazaras, gilakis, even sistanis and achomis are considered different ethnic groups to Persians on these pages, despite speaking dialects of standard Persian or Persian languages descended of middle Persian (Lurs and bakhtiaris for example). Whos behind these anti Persian pages? Seriously clean this anti-Persian propaganda up and stop with the racism. ~2025-41972-79 (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]