The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎ per WP:ATD-E, essentially. I'd be happy to provide a copy of this article upon request should people want to use its content to develop other more focused articles. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 03:02, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Social media and television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Vanity article with deminimis view (several hundred a month) that is more like reflection. Graywalls (talk) 03:14, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Advertising, and Internet. Graywalls (talk) 03:14, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Pageviews are not relevant in determining suitability for Wikipedia. And if the article is poorly written, that's reason for a rewrite, not a deletion. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs | global account ] 03:35, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Except.. we already have social media and television. This article is a vanity article with no clear merit. Graywalls (talk) 04:10, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whose vanity? Geschichte (talk) 13:20, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vanity article as in spammy filler material. Oaktree b (talk) 13:56, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to hear from Graywalls. Vanity is not spam as such, it's the notion that "I'm so important that I need a Wikipedia article". Geschichte (talk) 07:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: but boy does this need a rewrite. I think it's talking about the effect of social media and television, but this is all over the place. I'd maybe sent it to !draft, but it's an old article, not sure anyone would pick it up. Oaktree b (talk) 13:58, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: While there are plenty of sources, this topic fails the second test of WP:GNG: material not being excluded under WP:NOT. This violates WP:NOESSAY and is a pile of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. While I'm sure someone could write an encyclopedic treatment of this topic, this ain't it, and would require such extensive revision that WP:DINC doesn't apply and WP:TNT does. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I think we should generally be pretty reluctant to invoke WP:TNT, but this is over the bar for me, basically per Dclemens1971. I think a related issue is that people have interpreted the scope as "anything I can think of involving the intersection between social media and television", which isn't really a coherent topic for an article (there's a reason titles like this are discouraged). If this is deleted, it'd be best recreated as multiple articles with narrower scopes (we already have Social television, and maybe Effects of social media on television ratings would be a good addition). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:02, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Leaning keep of move to draft, AFD is not cleanup, and any editor can clear out the essayish stuff. Articles about the documented interrelationship between related fields are permissible. BD2412 T 04:14, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:38, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per Dclemens1971 and Extraordinary Writ's assessments, and WP:NOTESSAY. This article is a mess and sources addressing the topic should be used in more focused articles. MidnightMayhem 13:48, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.