Talk:PZ Myers

Does he have any academic achievements? Papers published? Recognitions? Accolades? Anything?

Just wondering. 69.34.51.170 (talk) 05:48, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Many; find him on Google Scholar. But this article doesn't really tell about that, does it? Thanks for the heads-up. YoPienso (talk) 07:48, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, he is entirely non notable, just a blogger 98.7.192.88 (talk) 05:45, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He has biology credentials and is notable for his education advocacy, hence this article's existence. You may want to nominate the article at WP:AFD if you think he does not meet Wikipedia inclusion requirements. This talk page is otherwise not a forum to discuss the topic, only to discuss article improvements. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate10:29, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Besides being a biology professor at a small campus in the hinterlands of Minnesota, he's mostly a blogger that often picks fights with others and whose blog commenters have been called "screechy monkeys" by Scienceblogger Chad Orzel.[1]
Myers has made himself unpopular with many due his excessively combative nature and his sometimes tasteless comments. For example, his inappropriate and ill-timed commentary about the death of the popular comedian Robin Williams) didn't win him any friends. His fellow evolutionist/atheist Jerry Coyne wrote in response to Myers' commentary on the suicide of Robin Williams: "This is one of the most contemptible and inhumane things I've ever seen posted by a well-known atheist. It reeks of arrogance, of condescension, and especially of a lack of empathy for those who loved and admired Williams not because they knew him, but because he brought them happiness and made them think."[2]
Myers also has a reputation for nastiness. The biologist Massimo Pigliucci said of Myers, "one cannot conclude this parade without mentioning P.Z. Myers, who has risen to fame because of a blog where the level of nastiness (both by the host and by his readers) is rarely matched anywhere else on the Internet..."[3]Knox490 (talk) 19:31, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Does this rant have a point? — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 15:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Now that you brought it up, I believe the article should be more be more neutral (NPOV). Right now, it is heavy pro PZ Myers and seems controlled by PZ Myers fans. An article in USA Today called Myers an "online provocateur" and an "eccentric voice".[4]Knox490 (talk) 23:06, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Talk pages are for actionable proposals to improve the article (specific text). They are not places where people can drop negative snippets and general complaints. WP:NOTFORUM applies. Johnuniq (talk) 00:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Should the USA Today material be used in order to indicate that Myers has been called an "online provocateur" and an "eccentric voice"? Fellow evolutionists/atheists Jerry Coyne/Massimo Pigliucci appear to concur that Myers can be unnecessarily combative and also mean-spirited in his online commentary as I noted above.Knox490 (talk) 00:35, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit the article and see what happens. The trick would be to find a place where such text could be added while satisfying WP:DUE. At any rate, negative views should be based on a secondary source. Johnuniq (talk) 01:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. That is an entirely reasonable approach. I will keep that in mind for other articles too.Knox490 (talk) 01:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article needed?

Myers himself doesn't seem notable enough for an article, his blog itself has an article, does he need one? the article itself seems too long and repetitious, one of the controversially primarily happened to another person and the other controversy can be contained on the article of the film. 78.146.189.6 (talk) 06:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't really exist outside of his blog. VFD++. 46.142.227.82 (talk) 07:56, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Pharyngula (blog) into PZ Myers

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Most of the blog article is sourced to the blog itself, raising questions of WP:GNG. PZ Myers and his blog appear functionally equivalent in terms notability: Myers is primarily known for blogging, and the blog is primarily known for being Myers' blog. Independent secondary sources that mention the blog at at all tend to treat it as a subtopic of Myers (e.g. [5], [6], [7]). Some fan-centric primary-sourced blog trivia has now been removed, but the blog article has nothing notable (i.e. in-depth coverage by reliable, secondary sources) that can't be incorporated or summarized in a few paragraphs at PZ Myers. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:09, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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