Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Athangkarma/Archive


Athangkarma

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07 March 2025

Suspected sockpuppets

Mainly promoting Draft:Tarayana Foundation and Jigme Singye Wangchuck, and probably some others I've forgotten or missed. Most of the accounts were created last month, but one is from July 2024 and the master has been around a very long time. All editing the sourced platform. Some have similar userpages. Could be all socks, all meat, or a combination of both. Requesting CU to confirm and look for others because it wasn't easy to slog through the history of each of these pages. Bbb23 (talk) 17:26, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added Khenrab Nima who overlaps with some others on Ap Bokto.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:31, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added Druk&drukpa who overlaps with others on Dragon King and whose username is similar to Drukpa08.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:36, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  •  Clerk endorsed - For Yangyuel/Dallyparti/Doelkart03/Makeanic, see user pages. For Baylyi/Constantine234/Doelkart03/Drukpa08/KaiKaiPJs/Yangyuel, see their very similar and UPE-like timecards. Overall, all seems coordinated for the same customer. MarioGom (talk) 18:56, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Checkuser note: Athangkarma is  Confirmed to Druk&drukpa. Yangyuel, KaiKaiPJs, Constantine234, Dallyparti, Drukpa08, Baylyi, and Doelkart03 are  Confirmed to each other. Also confirmed to the second cluster:

Makeanic would be at unlikely with technical evidence alone, but I'm blocking as suspected on behavioral combined with the technical for everyone else. I'm also comfortable connecting the two clusters behaviorally, so,  Blocked and tagged :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:54, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

would be grateful if someone checked that i've done the tagging right :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 01:07, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional CheckUser note: At the request of Doc James, and in consultation with theleekycauldron, I have reviewed the sum of available information pertaining to these blocks, including checkuser results and logs, and the nature and quality of the edits made by the various accounts. Based on this information, it appears significantly more likely that this is a situation where an experienced Wikipedian has undertaken to assist new potential editors in developing their skills, rather than a sockpuppet/meatpuppet scenario. As such, and in the spirit of assuming good faith, theleekycauldron and I have agreed that I will unblock the relevant accounts. It seems clear that Bbb23 did not have the information provided by Doc James or Athangkarma at the time he wrote the SPI. It is worth noting that many "tells" that may lead one to the "socking" conclusion do not apply equally to those from a small geographic area and population who are writing in their second or third language rather than their native tongue; linguistic similarities in English are likely to be the result of the editors having a near-identical educational background, and topic choices are likely to more narrowly reflect local culture and custom. In this case, one of the draft articles that raised red flags (Draft:Tarayana Foundation) is highly specific to the culture of Bhutan, and would likely be best written about using Bhutanese sources by Bhutanese editors, which could easily lead to the appearance of some sort of conflict of interest, whether valid or not. On the other hand, this organization is analogous to the King's Trust - an organization about which Wikipedia has had an article since 2005; both are organizations that fund charitable activities in a designated kingdom and are established by one or more members of that kingdom's royal family. It's easy to write about things that make it to English language reference sources. It's much harder to write about similar organizations where the sources are primarily not written in English. All accounts have been unblocked at this time. Risker (talk) 14:11, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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