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The result was keep. Sr13 is almost Singularity 08:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Klein Collins High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Blatant advertising and/or spam for a school. Jmlk17 06:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see blatant advertising, nor spam, I do see a user who is editing a lot of Klein Independent School District articles for some odd reason though..--Taruru 06:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - High schools generally are considered to be notable. This school is a suburban high school serving a known community in northwest Harris County. The article is verifiable and is sourced. WhisperToMe 06:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep as a somewhat useful article, at least potentially if not currently. It might not have the name recognition of Chuck Norris, but if I were considering sending my kids there I'd appreciate an informative description of the place. Remember WP:SENSE and WP:IGNORE. --
  xDanielx
  ^Talk 07:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "I'd appreciate an informative description of the place"... for which the school's own website should be appropriate. In its current form, which is a simple duplication of the information and weasel-words that should be available on the school's website, while showing no notability outside existing and no sources independant of the school itself (let alone at all) the article would best be redirected with possible weak minor merge to an article on the district the school is in, if identifiable. Failing merge, very, very ridiculously weakly keep due to the fact it is a high school, there has been an effort to conform to Wikipedia article formatting with this one compared to other listed school articles, and that if we start deleting high schools with no claim to fame other than existing , there will be another WP:SCHOOLS-like shitfight. -- saberwyn 11:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - just about any academic organization that was a Wikipedia article has a website. "This information could exist somewhere apart from Wikipedia, therefore this information should not exist in Wikipedia" is a non sequitur. In any case, the website likely has a very small handful of administrators, while the article can be edited by several thousand knowledgeable editors, the latter collective having much more neutral intent. You won't find commentary on such things as overpopulation, drugs, violence, etc. on the school's website. Also note that as per WP:DP it is appropriate to judge the potential state of the article, not the current state of the article; not conforming to certain formatting guidelines is a reason to improve those other articles, not delete them. --
  xDanielx
  ^Talk 20:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Bduke 11:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete WP:N: No claim of notability whatsoever. WP:DIR: Wikipedia is not a school catalogue--Victor falk 13:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep High Schools (and higher) belong. Middle/jr. high would need more notability for their own article. Pharmboy 00:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep The allegation that this is spam without foundation and is a blatant breach of the policy on assuming good faith. LukeHoC 02:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep This is a 5A school, with plenty of coverage of school activities from reliable sources Corpx 05:05, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep All high schools are notable, as I argue here, and, as Corpx's link shows, there are plenty of independent sources available showing the school is notable. Noroton 19:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I agree, and would like to see this as official policy: "High Schools are automatically notable by the nature of what they are." Your linked article is spot on, plus there are several other issues that make high schools automatically notable, including the fact that it is the highest level of education achieved by the majority of the population, and how most people identify themselves via their high school graduating class (ie: I'm class of 83) even people who DIDN'T graduate. Not sure how to reopen the wp:schools and see if consensus would make this policy, but it would be worthwhile. Pharmboy 20:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - high school involved in an encyclopedic and newsworthy controversy. TerriersFan 02:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep — Sufficiently notable. Is this Harris County cleanup week or something? — RJH (talk) 19:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - as per discussion above, although this article would benefit from improvements. The school district as a whole is notable, as are its component high schools. Perhaps someone can improve this article to be more like its sister high school articles Klein High School, Klein Forest High School and Klein Oak High School. Truthanado 16:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I agree that the article could use some improvements, but the issues at hand are, is this advertising, is the school notable, etc. The answer is that it is not advertising and the allegation is preposterous, and the school is one of the larger high schools in the Houston area not to mention the state. The sports achievements alone make it notable.-MBK004 01:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per TerriersFan, Truthanado, MBK004, Noroton, Pharmboy, RJHall, et al. Bearian 21:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.