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Irkutsk
Hi, could you please tell me why you reverted my edit to Irkutsk, Russia. I added a template saying to expand from the Russian version because I noticed the Russian version was significantly longer than the English version. All you said in your edit summery was "you don't say...". Please explain why.Spidersmilk (talk) 23:23, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- Hi there! The purpose of the cleanup templates is to point out problems and to make recommendations about things which are not obvious at a quick glance. That an article about a major Russian city can be expanded with materials from a corresponding article in the Russian Wikipedia is beyond obvious--it is true regarding pretty much any topic related to Russia! If you found that an article in, say, Swahili Wikipedia was unbelievably well-written, adding a tag to point it out would have been helpful. Pointing out that the Russian Wikipedia has a longer article, not so much. Any editor interested in expanding the article about Irkutsk should make the Russian Wikipedia article their first stop anyway, even if only to see if there are any sources worth poaching. Adding a tag in this situation amounts to nothing but clutter. Hence my revert. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 12, 2016; 03:27 (UTC)
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Could you please have a look at the article? Someone created it without paying too much attention to our article structure, and I am not quite sure what to do with it. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:32, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- Well, we don't have much of a structure for lower-level divisions, because there are hardly any articles about them, but the idea was for them to follow the structure of the higher-level divisions (such as districts/municipal districts). For those, if you remember, only articles about the administrative-territorial entities are created, with the municipal aspect information being upmerged. That is, unless the municipal entity spans more than one administrative division, in which case creating a separate article makes sense (see, for example, articles in Category:Urban okrugs of Russia).
- With the rural settlements, there is an additional complication one needs to remember, which is that not all federal subjects would have a corresponding administrative entity (in which case creating an article about a rural settlement makes sense), in some federal subjects the administrative divisions mirror the municipal divisions and their terminology (ditto), and in others yet the divisions match territorially, but the terminology doesn't. That's where Leningrad Oblast is at—its administrative divisions (both urban and rural) are called "settlement municipal formations", while the municipal entities, like everywhere else, are the "urban/rural settlements". This poor choice of terminology makes Leningrad Oblast a particularly bad starting point to sort out administrative and municipal entities—in another federal subject where the administrative divisions are "selsoviets", the distinction would not sound as artificial as it does in Leningrad Oblast. Still, if we are to follow the spirit of the convention and the structure that's been built thus far, I would suggest moving the article in question to Bolshekolpanskoye Settlement Municipal Formation (note the change of spelling to match WP:RUS), especially if this is just a one-off article.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 18, 2016; 15:01 (UTC)
- Pinging the author of the article: @Herostratus:--Ymblanter (talk) 15:41, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. I remember we had the Nizhnetoyemsky Selsoviet article; then, indeed, for Leningrad Oblast it should be Bolshekolpanskoye Settlement Municipal Formation. But it would be a good chance to polish the structure of such articles: what templates should we use, what literature etc.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:43, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- I created the article, but it's just a copy of the Russian one (here) down to the typography and layout (except that I omitted one section (and I still need to add the refs)). It is a one-off from my point of view; I created it mainly so I could point to it as an example at Rural settlement (Russia) (also a new article) and I'm not planning on creating any more at present. Anything that y'all decide regarding nomenclature (or anything else) is fine with me and would in fact be welcome. And sorry about the WP:RUS errors, thanks for the corrections. Herostratus (talk) 16:01, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- The problem with the Russian Wikipedia is that they base on the municipal division whereas we base on the administrative division. This is why we do not have articles about municipal districts but do have articles about districts.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:19, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think that having a handful of articles about rural settlements is a bad idea, evrn if they are to be upmerged eventually. They will be handy to illustrate discussion points and as a testing grounds. So thank you for creating this one.
- As for the nomenclature, we definitely need to develop it at some point. I was just hesitant to start working on it myself before finishing the urban-type settlements/urban settlements batch. Seeing how those don't exactly spark a lot of interest, starting to work on selsoviets/rural settlements in earnest seemed somewhat... premature? ...counterproductive? For all its low profile, you'd be astonished at just how much more complicated and convoluted the rural level is! If you thought the distinction between the administrative and municipal districts was confusing, wait till we start untangling the rural divisions :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 18, 2016; 16:33 (UTC)
- Heh, I'm sure... OK, I did not know that stuff (above), thanks. Speaking just for myself, I prefer to be free to bring over articles at random as fancy strikes or I see something missing, I'm definitely not make-articles-for-all-the-districts-in-an-oblast person. Short attention span. Willing to consider helping out (with my poor skills) if asked though. Yes, having at least the one article a rural settlement is IMO useful for instructing the reader on the details of a rural settlement... Bolshekolpanskoe Rural Settlement may not be a typical one though, I picked it utterly at random. Herostratus (talk) 20:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- If you feel like working on another one at some point, may I suggest something like Kukoboyskoye Rural Settlement (in Pervomaysky Municipal District of Yaroslavl Oblast)? It is a typical example of a rural settlement that would need its own article, as it spans five administrative divisions (rural okrugs) and thus can't be upmerged anywhere. And since its name is unambiguous, there is no need to worry about disambiguation/set indices/hatnotes/etc. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 19, 2016; 15:13 (UTC)
- Heh, I'm sure... OK, I did not know that stuff (above), thanks. Speaking just for myself, I prefer to be free to bring over articles at random as fancy strikes or I see something missing, I'm definitely not make-articles-for-all-the-districts-in-an-oblast person. Short attention span. Willing to consider helping out (with my poor skills) if asked though. Yes, having at least the one article a rural settlement is IMO useful for instructing the reader on the details of a rural settlement... Bolshekolpanskoe Rural Settlement may not be a typical one though, I picked it utterly at random. Herostratus (talk) 20:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- I created the article, but it's just a copy of the Russian one (here) down to the typography and layout (except that I omitted one section (and I still need to add the refs)). It is a one-off from my point of view; I created it mainly so I could point to it as an example at Rural settlement (Russia) (also a new article) and I'm not planning on creating any more at present. Anything that y'all decide regarding nomenclature (or anything else) is fine with me and would in fact be welcome. And sorry about the WP:RUS errors, thanks for the corrections. Herostratus (talk) 16:01, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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Tag issues with the 2010 census
Could you please have a look and see why for example in Verkhnetoyemsky District the refs are rendered properly whereas in Zelenogradsky District they are not? I tried to fix it but I could not find any difference between the articles. (The problem is for many if not all the districts of Kaliningrad Oblast, but once I know what the problem is I can locate and fix the others myself). Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:24, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've been meaning to bring this up too, I've been seeing it in places such as Anadyrsky District as well. I always presumed that it was an error I had made but just could not see in the text. Fenix down (talk) 09:28, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- No, this something more complicated, I do not see anything wrong in the histories.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:33, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- The error is a result of a combination of at least three factors, one of which is a typo in the parameter name, but the good news is that a fix is as easy as this. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 29, 2016; 12:56 (UTC)
- Cheers buddy! I think that fixes the issues I am seeing in articles I have watchlisted. You would not believe how long I stared and the basic text to try to find that without success! Fenix down (talk) 13:56, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Great, thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:48, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- The error is a result of a combination of at least three factors, one of which is a typo in the parameter name, but the good news is that a fix is as easy as this. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 29, 2016; 12:56 (UTC)
- No, this something more complicated, I do not see anything wrong in the histories.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:33, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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Казённая палата
Hello Ezhiki, can you tell how do you translate Казённая палата in English? Казённая may mean public or government, so perhaps Public or Government Chamber. Regards.--Orel787 (talk) 17:35, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- I would go with "Financial/Treasury Board/Chamber", as handling finances was its primary purpose. "Public" or "Government" sounds too generic, IMO.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 17, 2016; 02:51 (UTC)
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HI the List of Running Man episodes page has truble because the current edit that shown is the fake and without source and Non-standard and True and modify users information (The new Edits), not shown in the page i saw users shared the fake version in the other sites with wikipedia link please consider it (Pikhmikh (talk) 23:57, 17 March 2016 (UTC))
- Hi, Pikhmikh! I know nothing about the subject of this list and am thus can't really discern what is correct and what isn't. My recommendation would be for you to point out the problems on the article's talk page where someone knowledgeable can respond.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 18, 2016; 14:15 (UTC)
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Здравствуйте, уважаемый Ezhiki!
Если у Вас будет время и желание, то взгляните пожалуйста на статью. Насколько там всё плохо? Орфография, стилистика..
Заранее спасибо, Frutti-mytti (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Довольно плохо, к сожалению. Хоть и лучше, чем машинный перевод, но ненамного. Советую спросить на WT:RUS, есть ли желающие статью почистить (я бы помог, но в последние пару месяцев времени нет совершенно). Тема статьи интересная и важная, материалы имеются, нужен только волонтёр, который бы прошёлся по всему тексту хотя бы поверхностно, потому что в текущем виде статью читать невозможно.
- (By the way, I'm a guy :))—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 30, 2016; 17:18 (UTC)
Спасибо за внимание, совет и столь оперативный отзыв. Обязательно обращусь на WT:RUS. Полагаю, что статья об одном из старейших театров России (1777) достойна иметь версию и в английской Википедии.
Ещё раз благодарю за участие. С наилучшими пожеланиями, (yo!) Frutti-mytti (talk) 17:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Russian anti-aircraft unit involved in MH 17
Hi Ezhiki, greetings and best wishes with all your work. Me and my teammate User:Kges1901 are working upon Soviet Army brigades. I would like to create an article for the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Rocket Brigade, the unit whose vehicle shoot down Malaysian Airlines Flight 17. Fine so far - we can do this. What I would also like to do is to create a short, very well referenced, Russian-language counterpart for that article, not just about the shootdown but about the history of the brigade. Would you consider helping? Buckshot06 (talk) 21:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- You would be one of the few people I'd consider fulfilling this request for (I don't normally contribute to ru_wiki), but unfortunately this is not a commitment I can afford at this time. But why would you want to need a Russian-language counterpart if you already have the sources and can write an article here?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 1, 2016; 13:34 (UTC)
- Plainly? Agitprop. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:33, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
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The prod on this may interest/annoy you!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:45, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up. I've deprodded it. This is a relatively common occurrence, as people keep confusing set index articles and disambiguation pages. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 3, 2016; 17:12 (UTC)
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Hello! As there is already an only proposed Wikipedia guideline on naming conventions (Cyrillic). The proposal is still in development, under discussion and needs of gathering consensus for adoption. Since I am well experienced on this subject, I would like to criticize the official transliteration of Bulgarian as it gives too many errors, which also causes some losses of sounds “ǎ (a hacek”), decentralise itself from other slavic languages (“c” and “š” voices), which is also conflicting in itself (see street signs 1 and 2). By this revision, it is away from being accurate and not able to satisfy the needs of an encyclopedia which claims to be scientifical. These are the reasons I invite you to read Scientific transliteration of Cyrillic and involve the discussion in order to contribute a possible concensus. Wish to see you here thanks Manaviko (talk) 13:22, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the invite, but I don't speak Bulgarian and hence can't productively comment on the proposal. If the discussion turns to Russian, please feel free to reach out to me again; I'll be happy to participate.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 5, 2016; 13:28 (UTC)
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Доброе утро Ezhiki! Can you or Ymblanter find more on this park? I'd imagine there's more on it in Russian.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- I will have a look, but I have very little internet access until the end of the week.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:25, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
RfC History of South America
Hi Ezhiki, you may wish to comment. Kind regards -- Marek.69 talk 04:48, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, Marek! I've left a comment with my opinion there. Good luck!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 14, 2016; 13:36 (UTC)
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Magadan Oblast
Hi Ezhiki, does this indicate that the reorganisation of the municipal setup is complete, that the listing given is a complete listing of all non-liquidate settlements and that they all roll up into the urban district? If so, how would a table listing them be titled?, just a list of settlements under one heading called something like "Settlements located in the territory of urban district"? Fenix down (talk) 14:03, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- My apologies; I know I promised to get to these, but haven't had time to do it since then. I haven't looked into whether all of the changes are complete or still ongoing either, but the link above represents the state of the matters as of the beginning of 2016, which is not a bad reference point.
- As for the table, I'd title it "inhabited localities on the territory of the urban okrug" (to match the terminology used elsewhere). In all, the new setup is the identical to how Magadan Urban Okrug is set up. Let me know if you need anything clarified, though. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 20, 2016; 15:46 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for confirming. So in this instance the area and boundaries of a given district in Magadan Oblast are now equal to the area and boundaries of the urban okrug of its administrative centre? Fenix down (talk) 16:20, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- I haven't looked into all of them in detail to confirm 100%, but the boundaries of the ones I did look into are identical. Since Magadan Oblast's entities have always been clearly defined (unlike Chukotka's cross-boundary mishmash), I think it's a safe bet to treat the administrative and municipal borders as identical. And yes, I am still planning to look into all this in detail, it's just that I don't when it's gonna happen (because real life sometimes is a bitch).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 20, 2016; 16:34 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for confirming. So in this instance the area and boundaries of a given district in Magadan Oblast are now equal to the area and boundaries of the urban okrug of its administrative centre? Fenix down (talk) 16:20, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ezhiki, when you have a minute, could you have a look at this initial draft. Am I using the references correctly for the administrative and municipal status parameters? Fenix down (talk) 15:36, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- You are using them correctly, but note that all the administrative/municipal templates for Magadan Oblast need to be updated with the latest changes, and that's one task I've been having trouble recently finding time for. If you are able, feel free to update those templates yourself; otherwise some alternative referencing method will be needed (it's no good to use an outdated template for a reference). Sorry for letting you down like that, but life happens :(—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 29, 2016; 16:35 (UTC)
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Airbase (Air Base) or airbase (air base)
Usually air base is capitalised and not in brackets. See Hatzerim Airbase, Çiğli Air Base, Category:Indonesian Air Force bases, Category:Bases of the Swedish Air Force and List of United States Air Force installations#United States Air Forces in Europe - Air Forces Africa for some examples. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 00:18, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure what this is in reference to? At any rate, I know I've seen them both ways, and in the context of Russia at least the "(air base)" version is more common, simply because "air base" is not a part of the name but merely a qualifier. If there is a naming guideline for this, you might want to review it and to take this into account. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 4, 2016; 20:44 (UTC)
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Area data for Russian Districts Comment Suggestion
Hello, I'd like to be helpful on the Russian District articles. I see some "<citation needed>" tags on the surface area statistic for some districts, and would like to know if you consider, say, 'citypopulation.de' to be a WP:RS? For example, for the infobox on Aginsky District, I'd proposed using the surface area data from the web page Aginskij Rajon. Also, I don't want to break anything you might have automated, so let me know if I'd be causing problems. Thanks. Every-leaf-that-trembles (talk) 02:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hi there! Having area information in the articles about the Russian districts would be grand; thanks for volunteering! :) Unfortunately, I don't believe citypopulation.de qualifies as a reliable source, not according to these criteria, at least. Incidentally, others might disagree with this assessment (this very website had been used to support raw data in a variety of our articles), but I'm yet to meet anyone who is able to demonstrate how this site has "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". Not to disparage the site itself—it's obviously someone's work of love and a full-time hobby—the information it contains is most likely pretty accurate, but the problem is that "a source with accurate information" and "a reliable source" are not synonymous terms in Wikipedia's parlance. For example, if I re-publish Russian Census data on my own site, the information will be accurate but my site would still not magically become a "reliable source" for Wikipedia purposes. Citypopulation.de is not that different in that regard. For additional opinions about that site, take a look here.
- That said, all is not lost. If you can read Russian, area information is something that's usually easy to find on the districts' websites (and a link to the website is often available in the infobox). Municipal charters frequently contain this information as well. One still needs to be careful in both cases—while it is not common for the areas of an administrative district and of the municipal district into which the administrative district is incorporated to differ, it does happen, plus some administrative districts are incorporated into urban okrugs, where the latter would include the territory of the administrative center and the former would not, making the areas quite different. (I'm mentioning this because unlike in the Russian Wikipedia, where articles are written primarily about the municipal entities, our articles are primarily about the administrative entities, with the information about the municipal aspect upmerged).
- Speaking of "infobox automation", the only two things to keep in mind are that a "citation needed" tag would be appended to the area figure if no source is provided by the "area_km2_ref" parameter, and that no extraneous information beyond the area figure should be supplied to the "area_km2" parameter, otherwise the conversion and the density calculations will break.
- I hope I haven't discouraged you or overwhelmed you with information. I just wanted to point out that the task is not as simple as it might seem at first glance (few things related to Russia are, unfortunately). In any case, let me know your thoughts; I'll be happy to assist in any way I can! Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 21, 2016; 13:29 (UTC)
- Thanks for the pointers, it's much appreciated. I am running through a couple dozen districts as a test run to see what kinds of sources are available. I keep hoping to find a magic table of statistics. No luck so far. But I rather enjoy visiting actual text sources because it's an excuse to read up on interesting places. So, for Aginsky District, I used Агинский район, from the Encyclopedia of Trans-Baikal. This appears to meet the reliable source criteria (sponsored by Transbaikal State University, has an editorial board, support from the government, etc.) Did I do mark up the page correctly? The WP:Russia cleanup list suggests something like 1,500 articles with 'District' in the name, so I can't promise how far I'll get until I do some more time-and-motion experimenting and maybe write some search scripts. I'll pick up missing coordinates and location maps on the way. (BTW, I assume it would be forbidden "original research" to run a polygon area routine on the district borders on OpenStreetMap?) Every-leaf-that-trembles (talk) 04:32, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
- The Encyclopedia of Trans-Baikal absolutely is a reliable source! And as you have probably already discovered, it contains tons of useful information beyond just the statistics.
- And you are right about the lack of a magic list of district areas—I don't believe there is one on the federal level, although for some federal subjects area stats can be available in one place (I know Primorsky Krai's official website used to have a page for each district, which included this information). A polygon area routine, yes, that would be original research and, incidentally, I believe this is exactly how the district areas on citypopulation.de are being calculated. It's a sound practice, of course, but from the "reliable sources" point of view there are just too many factors which fall outside of the "published, verified, not synthesized" area (the provenance of the polygon data points would be the biggest one—OpenStreet works similar to Wikipedia, and Wikipedia articles cannot be used to source other Wikipedia articles).
- Anyway, thanks again for all your work and enthusiasm! Russian districts are not exactly an area drawing interest of hundreds of editors, so whatever work you can do will be of great benefit. If there is anything you think I can help with, feel free to poke me. I'm not very good with committing time, but am certainly available to clarify how things are set up or to look up an occasional factoid. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 22, 2016; 13:12 (UTC)
- Thanks for the pointers, it's much appreciated. I am running through a couple dozen districts as a test run to see what kinds of sources are available. I keep hoping to find a magic table of statistics. No luck so far. But I rather enjoy visiting actual text sources because it's an excuse to read up on interesting places. So, for Aginsky District, I used Агинский район, from the Encyclopedia of Trans-Baikal. This appears to meet the reliable source criteria (sponsored by Transbaikal State University, has an editorial board, support from the government, etc.) Did I do mark up the page correctly? The WP:Russia cleanup list suggests something like 1,500 articles with 'District' in the name, so I can't promise how far I'll get until I do some more time-and-motion experimenting and maybe write some search scripts. I'll pick up missing coordinates and location maps on the way. (BTW, I assume it would be forbidden "original research" to run a polygon area routine on the district borders on OpenStreetMap?) Every-leaf-that-trembles (talk) 04:32, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, Ezhiki. I did an experiment to see what it takes to update district data. Using three different methods in three areas, I timed the clearing of citation-needed's in all the districts of: Bryansk (using the FSSS database), Zabaykalsky (using third-party data source), and Kemerovo (using the district's official websites.
Short story: The FSS database is the fastest, about 2 minutes to find a datapoint and update the wiki article tag. The speed, though, is mostly due to not being distracted to read unrelated information that you'd find on the district's website.
But reading the local lore is the fun part, so I think I'll work on not just clearing citations, but also adding a "geography" and "economy" paragraph to each article. That takes about 10-15 minutes each - figuring out which ways the rivers flow, finding a site that will describe the terrain and vegetation, etc.
My questions at this point:
- Is there a 'minimum information set' to get a district article from "stub" to "start" quality?
- Is there an accepted place to leave notes for others who might be doing similar research? I'm keeping notes on sources, and scripts for fast formatting of references. Maybe put a notes page on one of my User subpages? Talk page of one of the districts?
- Is it "original research" to create an Excel compendium of database downloads? The gks.ru site can be slow, has quirks, and doesn't print a spreadsheet of district level data. It requires 6-8 keystrokes to drill to a particular data point. So I wrote a routine to create my own 'magic table', dumping all the Bryansk district-level data to a spreadsheet that is about 2,500 rows of data for each district, by 27 columns for the districts. A local, flat table like that is a lot easier to use. I did run the labels through Google translate and then made some tweaks to the unit descriptors (Google thinks a центнер is a hundredweight, which would confuse a lot of English-speaking farmers). What are the limits of using such a table for Wikiarticles? Every number can be referenced to it's original gks.ru output report, so it's really just a timesaver, not a derivative-maker.
Every-leaf-that-trembles (talk) 18:43, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, Every-leaf-that-trembles! (By the way, is there a shorter way to address you which you will find acceptable?) Sorry for a delayed response, but it's holidays and summer and all!
- I'm afraid I can't really help you with not being distracted when adding stats :) I do have the same problem myself! Anyway, to answer your questions:
- There is no strictly defined set of requirements for an article to be considered "start" quality over "stub". You can check against the set of guidelines outlined at WP:STUB and read up on the general article assessment philosophy here, but don't sweat it too much. It's mostly boils down to subjective judgement anyway. If all you have is an infobox and a couple lines, that's definitely a stub, and if you add a couple basic paragraphs about, say, economy and geography, that's definitely a "start", but for anything in between it's basically your call.
- Your user page, article talk pages, and WT:RUSSIA are all acceptable places to leave notes. The main problem is that you'll soon find that there are hardly any "others" who are at least marginally interested in this topic. As far as I know, you, me, Ymblanter, and Fenix down are the only ones who work in this area more or less frequently. I'd recommend WT:RUSSIA for general inquiries and Wikipedia:WikiProject Russia/Human geography of Russia task force to keep notes and provide guidance, which is the best central point (albeit not much used) we have for this kind of work, but if you find a way that works better, more power to you.
- Creating a local compendium of data is not original research as long as you are not synthesizing the data or drawing conclusions which require judgement. The important thing is for the data to be verifiable—a requirement that is satisfied by providing references pointing to the original source. I was doing pretty much the same thing with the administrative/municipal status—all the information I'm adding points to the original documents, but I did compile those documents into one huge database locally and am keeping it updated when changes occur. This is nothing more than a question of organizing workflow; as long as your compilation is true to the source and you are not using the compilation itself as a reference, you are fine.
- Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 5, 2016; 13:40 (UTC)
- To expand on this, I went through the articles on all districts and more notable localities (such as towns and urban-type settlements) on Arkhangelsk, Vologda, Novgorod, Pskov, Leningrad, and Tver Oblasts, now doing Smolensk Oblast. I tried to bring all of them to kind of the same standard not compromizing on the notability criterion. I guess I succeeded with most of the articles, exceptions being big or popular cities where a lot of cruft was added before me, and it would take a lot of time to bring it to a reasonable structure. Any of my articles can be used as a template if needed.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:49, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you both for the guidance, I appreciate it. Some answers to your answers:
- In real life my name is Russ (no relation to the country). I'm interested in the districts because they correspond to counties in the US, and I've spent part of my career doing rural economic development, visiting over 500 counties in 49 states. Sorry, Hawaii. I like to compare the Russian districts to similar counties in the US (climate, soil type, transportation, etc.) For example, the photo for this Bryansk district reminded me of scenes I've seen in the midwest - even the sensible shoes.
- If I develop notes that might be of general use to Wikipedia editors, I'll put them on my user page until someone tells me otherwise (bots have been leaving tags in my user drafts that suggest it's frowned on to leave things too long so I'm doing drafts off-line now.) I have already posted the template I built here for Protected Areas articles.
- The last full year of FSSS data seems to be 2014, and there seems to be a core set of about 1,600 data series that is collected for each district, although most have about 2,500. I'm collecting the data into Excel files as long as I'm hitting the gks server; I won't clutter Wikipedia with the raw data but if it might be of use I can post it somewhere.
- I read through some of your (Ymblanter's) examples of subsection text; they give a good sense of place. I'm afraid I haven't been to Russia, so I'm relying on local sources only. I'll try building a template in my own words that follows your outline - my biggest fear is inadvertent cutting and pasting from original sources, so I tend to rewrite things as if I were explaining a county to a US resident. A template will allow people to correct any of my terminology problems once and be done with it.
- Every-leaf-that-trembles (talk) 00:58, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you both for the guidance, I appreciate it. Some answers to your answers:
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There is a template missing at the bottom. I suspect it is not needed and was superceded by another template, but may be you could have a look for safety. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:12, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
- I'm traveling now, but I'll check what's going on when I'm back next week. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 18, 2016; 09:34 (UTC)
- Sure, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:31, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
- The template is located at "kichmengsko-gorodetsky" (after the district), not at "kichmengsky". I've retargeted it; seems to be working now. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 1, 2016; 13:06 (UTC)
- Sure, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:31, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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The source I cited gave two names. The first I used for the page name; the second is the one you changed it to. It's available on GoogleBooks, so you could have easily checked it. I figured if the latter name were more appropriate someone would simply change it to that. Nice edit summary btw. ST1849 (talk) 20:54, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- Well, it's not uncommon for the sources to screw up Russian names when attempting to transliterate them; some actually end up in common use that way! If I in any way gave an impression that I'm blaming you for this, it is most certainly not so :) One can't expect someone who does not know Russian to determine which translit variant is more adequate, but for future reference you are welcome to use WP:RUS, which is relatively straightforward to follow (and is based on BGN/PCGN romanization of Russian) as long as you can parse Cyrillic. Thanks for the article and the note. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 18, 2016; 21:01 (UTC)
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Is anyone interested in writing Russian stubs on some Canadian and US school districts?
Ezhiki, I'm looking to see if there are any users on ENwiki who know Russian and are interested in writing Russian stubs (on RUwiki) on some Canadian and US school districts. Here are some ideas:
- en:Toronto District School Board (the largest school district in all of Canada) recently launched websites in many languages, and Russian is one of them http://www.tdsb.on.ca/languages/ru-ru/home.aspx - An article on the TDSB in Russian may be useful for Russians living in Toronto
- en:Beaverton School District (near Portland, Oregon) has a website in Russian: https://www.beaverton.k12.or.us/depts/tchlrn/md/Pages/welcome-russian.aspx
- en:San Francisco Unified School District has some Russian language documents posted here: http://www.sfusd.edu/en/family-and-community-support/translation-and-interpretation.html
- en:Vancouver School Board https://www.vsb.bc.ca/sites/default/files/shared/School%20Act%20-%20Russian.pdf
I generally only request articles of a school district if the district posts documents in a given language, indicating there is a community of people speaking the language which is interested in its affairs.
Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 16:42, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, man, I've no idea—I only show up in ru_wiki a couple times a year myself and can't think of anyone I know who'd be interested in this topic. You can try posting this request at WT:RUSSIA—don't get your hopes up, but you never know who might read it there and find the task to their liking. I do wholeheartedly agree that the school districts with a Russian population should have an article in the Russian Wikipedia. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 29, 2016; 13:46 (UTC)
- Thank you for the suggestion. I'll see what happens when I post the suggestion there :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
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When you have time, could you please have a look at the infobox of this article? I am not sure I referred to the oficial documents correctly. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:49, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
- The OKTMO code was incorrect, but other than needing a couple other minor adjustments, it was good. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 14, 2016; 14:43 (UTC)
- Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:03, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, Ezhiki. Can you explain why do you rename Russia-related articles with the root "baikal"? I have noticed, that you do it on purpose, as for the town of Baikalsk (official website: http://gorod-baikalsk.ru/) that you renamed to Baykalsk.
I am really afraid of this trend, and WP:RUS is not an excuse for such a case. First of all, those places (Baikal-sk, Pri-baikal-sky National Park, Za-baikal-sky Krai, etc) are all derived from the eponymous Lake Baikal (Байкал). "Baikal" is a well-established name in English for this lake (WP:NCGN#Use_English), I see no reason why the places, which are derived from it, should be re/named using the root "baykal" in the name of the God of Romanization.
Check it out by yourself, I am sure you will also notice that the root "baikal" is preferred for Baikalsk in the English-language literature (https://books.google.com/ https://scholar.google.com/). --Russian Rocky (talk) 19:10, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hi there! Russian toponyms are romanized using the BGN/PCGN romanization system (on which WP:RUS is based), except in cases where a different name is commonly used in English (that would include places like Moscow, St. Petersburg, and yes, Lake Baikal—basically any places with a designated conventional spelling recognized by the BGN/PCGN themselves). This is a practice widely supported by consensus. The fact that a place has a common name in English, however, does not mean that derived names should deviate from standard. Hence, Moskva River and not "Moscow River", or Baykalsk and not "Baikalsk" (or "Bajkalsk"). If you take a look at any BGN/PCGN-compliant map, you'll see that these are the spellings used. When other spellings are commonly encountered in literature, it is OK to include them as alternatives in the lede, but the title should remain BGN/PCGN compliant. Romanization variants used by the Russian websites should especially be avoided as a guidance, since those websites are unlikely to be using a system targeting Anglophones (the GOST, for example, simply provides a Cyrillic to Latin alphabet mapping with no regards to the target language, which makes it unsuitable for use in the English Wikipedia, since its primary audience is English-language speakers). Also, don't forget that many place names have a great number of possible transliterations—standardizing on one system makes the choice consistent, yet all other variants can still be used via redirects. Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 3, 2016; 19:47 (UTC)
- Thank you for the detailed and quick answer, Ezhiki. Sounds reasonable. Unfortunately, two days ago, in the process of adding coats of arms and flags to Buryatia-related articles, I renamed two articles (Severo-Baikalsky District, Pribaikalsky District). I hope you forgive me, I will undo it tomorrow (no time at the moment).--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:53, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- No biggie, I've just moved them back. These aren't exactly high-profile articles :) I would've caught them earlier, but at the moment I'm a couple weeks behind on my watchlist patrolling, so thanks for bringing this up. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 4, 2016; 13:41 (UTC)
- Wow, just got back home only to find that you have already done the job. Thanks, Ezhiki.--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:29, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
- No biggie, I've just moved them back. These aren't exactly high-profile articles :) I would've caught them earlier, but at the moment I'm a couple weeks behind on my watchlist patrolling, so thanks for bringing this up. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 4, 2016; 13:41 (UTC)
- Thank you for the detailed and quick answer, Ezhiki. Sounds reasonable. Unfortunately, two days ago, in the process of adding coats of arms and flags to Buryatia-related articles, I renamed two articles (Severo-Baikalsky District, Pribaikalsky District). I hope you forgive me, I will undo it tomorrow (no time at the moment).--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:53, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, can you find the Russian for this and some old info in Russian? Also there's a river I've asked Ymblanter about! Hope you're well.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:13, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- I doubt I'll have anything to that level of obscurity for a non-Russian location. Anyway, I'm on the road right now, but I'll check when I get back home. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 9, 2016; 17:09 (UTC)
- It's quite a large village, not like it's a tiny selo!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:26, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- I understand, but it's in Turkmenistan :) I only have a couple books dealing with Turkmenistan—and neither one mentions Miana. Not finding anything useful online either—Google books has some odd bits here and there (in Russian), but all those books are in snippet view and not usable for adding anything to the article...—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 11, 2016; 14:42 (UTC)
- It's quite a large village, not like it's a tiny selo!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:26, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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Перевод или транслит
Здравствуйте. Помнится было где-то написано что в случаях названий песней и альбомов (современных), не используется дословный перевод с русского, а транслитерация. Я про эту правку. Наверное нужно транслит названии, а в скобках добавить оригинал и перевод. --XXN, 08:14, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- Вы совершенно правы. Если только музыкальное произведение официально не выходит на англоговорящем рынке (в коем случае используется название, под которым оно на этом рынке вышло), употребляется транслитерация (к которой при желании можно добавить дословный перевод, но только вдобавок, а не вместо). Соответствующее правило находится тут: WP:TRANSLITERATE ([n]ames not originally in a Latin alphabet, such as... Russian names, must be transliterated).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 12, 2016; 13:01 (UTC) 13:01, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- Спасибо. --XXN, 14:42, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Kartaly
Just because I'm interested in the example you gave of a combined "city-county" administrative division, I went to look at the pages for Kartaly town and Kartalinsky District. While the district page seems to show that both the town and district are one administrative division (The Town of Kartaly and Kartalinsky District), the page for the town, itself, seems to show (both on the associated map and in the writing) or at least imply that Kartaly town is administratively independent of Kartalinsky District. Is this a mistake on the town's page, or am I not reading it correctly? It doesn't specifically state that Kartaly town is of "district significance" but it does almost seem to imply that the town is some kind of additional level of administration (" it is incorporated within Kartalinsky District as the Town of Kartaly").
So, my question is whether they are two seperate administrative divisions, and if not, how would you suggest making the town's page more definitive/clear? In my mind, if it's only one administrative divisions, I'd do like the district page did and give the full name of the administrative town to avoid this confusion. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:58, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- Nevermind. I figured it out. The Virginia example I gave for "independent cities" are actually more akin cities of oblast significance since they are on the same level as counties (districts). In most of the rest of the United States most urban settlements regardless of size would be equivalent cities of district significance since they are almost always subordinate to the counties in which they reside. And, again, it is rare for any city outside of Virginia to be its own administrative division. Urban settlements almost always only have a municipal status if even that. As to the example above of Kartalinsky District and Kartaly town, it does not appear to be analogous to a combined "city-county" which is a combined and single administrative division. It appears that Kartaly town is actually a subordinate lower-level administrative division (a town of district significance) of the The Town of Kartaly and Kartalinsky District. An American "city-county" can not have administrative divisions of its own. In a "city-county" the admistrative division is essentially a city raised to the administrative level of a county.
- I guess to put it more simply, it seems that the biggest difference between local administration in the United States and Russia is that in Russia, you guys have multiple lower-level administrative divisions below the district level. In the United States, there is is rarely anything under the district (county) level. Some states have administrative "townships" which would match up with something like a "town of district significance" in Russia, but this administrative division doesn't exist in most states. So, basically, settlements in the United States are usually only defined at the municipal layer of government, whereas in Russia, settlements usually have both their own associated administrative division and municipal local government; I guess this means the federal government has a lot more control over settlements than in the United States. The United States Constitution doesn't mention municipal government and it's totally left up to the states to decide if they want it or not (i.e. Hawaii, for instance, doesn't have municipal divisions, only administrative counties as their local governments). The federal governments recognizes municipal governments, but have no legal oversight or control of them as it appears the Russian government does over Russian municipalities (mostly through corresponding administrative divisions), indirectly. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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Your edit on Crimean Federal District
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I have reverted your edit on aforementioned article because Russia uses date, month, year not month, date, year. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 03:46, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, Jack! I appreciate what you were trying to do, but you are not interpreting the guidelines correctly. What date format Russia or Ukraine uses has absolutely no bearing on what date format should be used in the articles in this English Wikipedia (if it did, we'd be forced to use the yyyymmdd format in the articles about Japan and the Hebrew calendar in the articles about Israel). The applicable guideline here is WP:DATERET, which mandates using national formats only in articles with strong national ties to a topic, with the aforementioned ties only being relevant when the nation in question is an Anglophone country. In short, mdy format is to be used in the US-specific articles, dmy format is to be used in the Commonwealth-specific articles, and everything else is fair game, with the choice made by the first major contributor being the default. Since the article in question was created in March 2014 with an mdy date, that's the format that's to be used there from now on (unless the UK decides to annex Crimea at some point :)). I've restored the original version. Please don't hesitate to contact me again if you need further clarifications. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 1, 2016; 13:09 (UTC)
- I do see other articles with said format however. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 01:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- And that is fine. There is no requirement for the articles specific to one country to share the same date format; the only requirement is that the same date format is consistently adhered to within any one given article. If you read WP:MOSDATE in its entirety (it spans several subsections), it should clear up a lot of similar questions you might have. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 2, 2016; 02:12 (UTC)
- I do see other articles with said format however. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 01:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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Barnstar
| The Russia Barnstar of National Merit | ||
| In Soviet Russia, Barnstar gives me to you FriyMan (talk) 07:36, 11 December 2016 (UTC) |
- Thanks man.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 12, 2016; 16:18 (UTC)
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Gulch is probably OR, a Canadian word. What is your opinion?Xx236 (talk) 11:15, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think OR concerns apply here. This kind of terms are never easy to translate, and there doesn't seem to be a common English name for this entity. "Gulch" seems to be an OK choice as far as translations go (and I don't think it's strictly Canadian; cf. Buckskin Gulch), although personally I would have used "valley" here, or some such term. The proper part of the name needs to be changed to "Khvoshchevataya" per WP:RUS, but for "балка" any reasonable translation would work, including "gulch". Thoughts?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 21, 2016; 16:34 (UTC)
- In another article of the same author I translated it earlier today as "ravine" (I happen to know how they look like, since I visited the area once), but I am not 100% sure this is the most appropriate word.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- If I had known for sure what they look like, I would have used "ravine", too :) I was only suggesting to use "valley" as it's an accurate enough generic term, but it might not always be the best choice, of course. "Gulch", to me at least, seems like another acceptable generic term.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 21, 2016; 16:47 (UTC)
- In another article of the same author I translated it earlier today as "ravine" (I happen to know how they look like, since I visited the area once), but I am not 100% sure this is the most appropriate word.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
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Happy Holidays!
| Happy Holidays! | |
| Hey old friend! I'm glad to see you're still around. I'm still doing some work on WPRU. I noticed we've got a bunch of high quality articles on Russian nature reserves. Now, with Trump coming into office, hopefully we'll see an end to the sanctions and to the standoffish approach the US Gov has had toward Russia for the past 8 years. No more Hillary Clinton or Samantha Power. That's a step forward in itself. I'd like to see a close partnership between the US and Russia. Anyways, I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 100 years since the Revolution! One of my life goals is to pay a long visit to Russia; to see Petersburg, Moscow, and especially Stalingrad, where I can look up in awe at Родина-мать зовёт!, one of the wonders of the modern world IMHO. Take care. lNeverCry 02:38, 24 December 2016 (UTC) |
- Hey, man, glad to see you around as well! Hope the holiday season is treating you well; с наступающим! :) Nature reserves, for those you can thank User:Every-leaf-that-trembles, who's been doing an absolutely amazing job in that area.
- Also, I didn't realize you are a Trump fan :) Me, I'm all for normalizing the US-Russia relationships, but I'd rather it being a result of someone decent taking over the helm in Russia instead of a result of President Pussygrabber and President 142% making out in public. Somehow having a president who speaks truth only by accident makes the next four years look rather bleak... but that's me, an old libtard :)
- Anyway, I do hope your plans to visit Russia come to fruition. The country is a marvelous place to visit, regardless of what kind of mediocrity is ru[i|n]ning it. And if you can find time to fit a trip on the Trans-Siberian Railway in between of all other things you want to do, I promise you won't regret it (my not-so-hidden agenda, of course, if for you to be able to experience Siberia and my native Far East, which are absolutely unlike the rest of the country). Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 27, 2016; 15:54 (UTC)