Talk:SS Edmund Fitzgerald
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Merge Ships Owned by Northwestern Mutual into SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Given that Ships Owned by Northwestern Mutual says the SS Edmund Fitzgerald was the only ship owned by the company, I see no reason as to why it should warrant a separate article. ForsythiaJo (talk) 00:38, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support merge. I agree with the nom assessment. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:01, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Merge instead to Northwestern Mutual as the more appropriate topic. Otherwise, I'd send the new article to AfD as non-notable as a separate topic. Imzadi 1979 → 02:47, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- I am fine with the merge target suggested by @Imzadi1979. Iljhgtn (talk) 02:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Protected edit request on 9 November 2025
Please revert this edit as unsourced. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:19, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- I've fixed the bug that was causing this to be protected. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- I would note that a quick search for news article found sourcing for the addition in like 30 seconds. I picked two quality sources easily.
- I would strongly suggest that people try to look for sources before reverting good-faith additions like that one. This is especially so when it literally takes longer to format the footnotes than to find the sources. Imzadi 1979 → 05:49, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
anniversary events?
big 50th anniversary making national news. what about previous decade anniversaries, events? Doug Grinbergs (talk) 08:12, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- In the references, you will see links to, for example, the 35th anniversary. I'm sorry that I don't have time to look more thoroughly. Cwilsyn (talk) 05:19, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
The Edmund Fitzgerald ship's bell
Link 95 is nearly correct factually, but now leads to a significantly different location. The citation is to the cover article of the January 1996 National Geographic. Clicking it now leads the reader to WorldCat, where the article is difficult to locate.
Fact to recheck: pagination. New link gives pages [36]-47. Old link was pages pp. 36–47 at 40, 47. I think the new one is preferable because the entire article is devoted to the topic of the bell.
Link 203, about the bell's display location, is broken.
Also, the existing wording of the sentence beginning "As of 2005," is ambiguous. Does it mean that the bell was moved to that site in 2005, or does it describe the state of affairs in 2005?
Here is a possibility for replacing the link and adding details within the article page:
https://shipwreckmuseum.com/edmund-fitzgerald/ (Although the page is copyrighted 2023, the content includes description of the 50th year commemoration and apparently was posted 11 November 2025.)
Cwilsyn (talk) 04:37, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Footnote 95 looks correct to me. Adding the OCLC identifier link will just bring a reader to the same location as the ISSN link, which is the WorldCat entry on the magazine, allowing readers to locate a copy near them. We are after all citing the print edition of the magazine from 1995, and not all sources used need to be online.
- Footnote 203 has an archived version linked. It's easy have the citation template swap the destination of the title so that it links to the archived version, and the original link is moved to the other location, which I just did with this edit.
- As for the wording, it's describing the state of affairs "as of 2005", which is when the source used there was published. Regarding your two proposed sources, we shouldn't use the second one from ssedmundfitzgerald.org because that's a self-published source. The author's credentials are not in history, and because this is a Featured Article, we need to be using high-quality reliable sources. For the first, that could be used to move the as of date to 2023, although I'm betting it wouldn't take much to find a recent news article from all of the press about the anniversary. The museum's website isn't unreliable, but it's a primary source, and an appropartie news article would be a secondary source. Imzadi 1979 → 05:20, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
Edmund Fitzgerald
My upper right signal for new notifications seems to be running slow. I'm really not trying to revert everything you say. Shall I fix my incorrect attempts, or would you rather check them against your final version?
Thank you for swapping out the edit. I imagine that local press will have published current appropriate articles. Cwilsyn (talk) 05:28, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Fix them, please. ~2025-43871-08 (talk) 15:35, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
- @~2025-43871-08: fix what please? Can you briefly elaborate? Imzadi 1979 → 16:08, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

