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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:29, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham and Onesimus of Kyiv Caves (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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There was no such "duo of Saints" akin to Peter and Paul or Marx and Engels. There were two monks Abraham the Laborious and Onisim of the Caves at Kyiv Pechersk Lavra. --Altenmann >talk 22:56, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 23:17, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep Nomination claims a probably unprovable negative fact, which is hard to defend as a reason for deletion. Both seem to be celebrated as saints in some orthodox churches by quick online search. Article may still fail notability, but not for the reasons given. Per WP:Preserve I would recommend keeping the article unless better reasons for deletion can be given. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 23:56, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do not have to prove anything, the WP:BURDEN is on the article writers. Yes, both are celebrated, but both have their own pages and there is no sources that present them as a Saint duo. There are two dozens or more venerated ones from The Caves, and I (and y'all) have no idea why this pair was made up. --Altenmann >talk 02:01, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  P.S. There is also no information to WP:Preserve. --Altenmann >talk 02:24, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: as per nominator, their notability is as individuals at current, even a look into the sources mentioned in the article itself does not specifically or even at least imply their relationship as a "duo" which defeats the purpose of making it the topic of the article, my search so far does not yield hits to support this pairing either, unless there are more RS that can be added, my vote is such.Villkomoses (talk) 23:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete since both have individual articles - with feasts being on different days as well. Geschichte (talk) 12:58, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Geschichte. I found one of the artlces and this makes it redundant. Article has been here since 2007. If this were useful, better sourcing would be found by now. Ramos1990 (talk) 22:23, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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