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The subject does not meet WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. No WP:SIGCOV found. Taabii (talk) 10:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, India, and Maharashtra. Taabii (talk) 10:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – none of the sources is reliable and independent and secondary, and there is no significant coverage of the person. The awards he has won are not notable, and there is no actual claim to notability. --bonadea contributions talk 10:38, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Internet. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 11:45, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Sources like Financial Express, Times of India, and Hindustan Times (excluding the Mother's Day one, which satisfies WP:RSNOI's dogwhistles for advertorials) clearly satisfy GNG. TOI is (unfortunately) one of the best sources in India, and its concern at RSP is because their paid content's labeling is not immediately obvious; the source cited in the article that features Dynamo does not seem to have the paid disclosure and has clear neutral tone and byline, so I believe it is not an advertorial. I also doubt Bonadea's claim that the awards are not notable. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:50, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Thank you, Aaron Liu, for your thoughtful assessment. I appreciate your detailed breakdown of the sources. Based on previous feedback, I have worked on improving the article by adding more independent and reliable sources and ensuring a neutral tone to address concerns about notability.

  I have now included sources such as Inside Sports India, FirstPostz, Sportskeeda, Hindustan Times, an official X post by the Government, and an official post by the PUBG Mobile YouTube channel. These further establish significant coverage of Dynamo Gaming from reputable media outlets and official sources.

  Regarding the awards, I have tried to verify their notability and coverage—if you have any recommendations for strengthening this section, I’d be happy to refine it further. Sarthak14331 (talk) 17:05, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  None of the sources you added help notability. Interviews aren't secondary, InsideSports looks sketchy and has very little information and thus no significant coverage, the government is a good source for that claim but does not provide significant coverage, PUBG mobile has a financial interest in promoting itself and thus isn't really secondary, and SportsKeeda is completely user-generated with little editorial credibility. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:37, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Thank you for your feedback, Aaron Liu. I understand the concerns regarding the nature of the sources, and I appreciate the clarification on what qualifies as significant coverage.

  I will look into adding more independent and in-depth sources that provide substantial coverage rather than just passing mentions or interviews. Based on your concerns, I will remove Sportskeeda and InsideSports as they do not meet Wikipedia's reliability standards. If you have any recommendations for reliable sources that could help establish notability, I’d be grateful for the guidance.

  Regarding the government source, while it may not provide significant coverage on its own, it does help verify certain claims. I’ll also review the other sources and see if there are better alternatives that align with Wikipedia’s guidelines on reliable secondary sources.

  Thanks again for your time and insights—I’ll work on improving the article accordingly. Sarthak14331 (talk) 17:59, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. MimirIsSmart (talk) 06:59, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your input. However, I have already improved the article by adding better sources and removing weaker ones like Sportskeeda. Additionally, I have fixed the promotional tone and added more reliable sources, including Hindustan Times,Times of India, IGN India, Financial Express, FirstPost, an official government X post have been included. If you believe the article still lacks notability, I would appreciate any guidance on additional sources that could help establish it. Sarthak14331 (talk) 09:21, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why you claim that you removed the Sportskeeda sources or why you seem to still think you added sources that establish notability. In fact this all seems like RefBombing. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:55, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aaron Liu:I apologize for the confusion regarding the removal of the Sportskeeda reference. Upon reviewing the edit history, I see that you were the one who removed it, not me. I misspoke earlier, and I appreciate you pointing that out. Thank you for catching that.

Regarding Dynamo Gaming, I believe it meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines due to its significant presence in the esports community and the Indian gaming industry. It has been covered by reliable, independent sources that highlight its achievements and impact.

Thank you for bringing up the concern about refbombing. I want to clarify that my intention was not to overwhelm the article with references but to provide sufficient evidence of Dynamo Gaming's notability. Each reference I included is from a reliable, independent source and directly supports the content in the article. If any of the references seem excessive or unnecessary, I’d be happy to review and adjust them. I’m open to your feedback and would appreciate any suggestions on how to improve the sourcing further. Sarthak14331 (talk) 14:20, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you respond to what I said above? Aaron Liu (talk) 12:55, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Another assessment of sourcing would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 08:39, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep:Since this discussion has been relisted for further sourcing assessment, I would like to present reliable sources that establish Dynamo Gaming’s notability.

Below are references from independent, reputable media outlets that provide significant coverage of his impact in the gaming industry:

• Indian Express: "Patt se Headshot" – What PUBG Mobile Star Dynamo Expects from Battlegrounds Mobile India – This article provides in-depth coverage of Dynamo Gaming, discussing his impact on the PUBG Mobile/BGMI community, his rise as a gaming influencer, and his influence on the Indian gaming industry.
• Firstpost: Indian PUBG Mobile Streamer Dynamo Talks About His Humble Beginnings & Inspiration – This article offers detailed coverage of Dynamo Gaming’s early career, his influence as a gaming streamer, and his contributions to the gaming community, thereby reinforcing his notability.
• IGN: Spotify Ropes in Popular Gaming Content Creator Aaditya 'Dynamo' Sawant to Host Podcast on Indian Gaming – This article discusses Dynamo's role in the gaming industry and his move into podcasting, further illustrating his impact and recognition as a gaming influencer.
• Times of India: Money Game – The Growing Biz of PUBG and Its Star Players – This article discusses the financial and business side of PUBG streamers, including Dynamo Gaming, highlighting his role as one of India’s top gaming influencers.
• Government of India: National Creators Award 2024 Nominees – Archived official MyGov page confirming Dynamo Gaming’s nomination for the National Creators Award 2024. This recognition by the Government of India highlights his influence in the gaming industry and contributes to his notability as a leading gaming content creator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarthak14331 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These sources demonstrate that Dynamo Gaming has received significant, independent, and in-depth coverage from reliable third-party publications. The coverage spans multiple aspects, including his influence on the Indian gaming community, his career progression, business impact, and recognition in mainstream media.

Per Wikipedia’s General Notability Guidelines (GNG), sustained coverage from reliable sources like The Indian Express, Times of India, Firstpost, and IGN establishes that Dynamo Gaming meets the criteria for an encyclopedia article. Given the depth and independence of these sources, I believe the article should be retained.

I welcome further discussion and feedback. Sarthak14331 (talk) 10:36, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bonadea, Aaron Liu, and Owen: It has been a few days since I provided additional reliable sources to establish Dynamo Gaming’s notability (Indian Express, Times of India, IGN, Firstpost, etc.). Since this discussion was relisted for further sourcing assessment, I would appreciate your thoughts on whether these sources meet Wikipedia’s notability criteria. Looking forward to your feedback. Thanks! Sarthak14331 (talk) 19:43, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

yea these are pretty good, esp the IGN one
It would fare better for you to keep your responses shorter and less verbose Aaron Liu (talk) 19:54, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Spotify podcast does not give GNG? IgelRM (talk) 15:18, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IGN is not a Spotify podcast, though. The IGN article's exigence was Spotify but it goes to great lengths to describe Dynamo gaming, ergo we have enough unbiased and reliable information combined with other sources to satisfy GNG. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:27, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, I confused the IGN article with something else somehow, and it indeed contributes little to GNG. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:28, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will use the Template:Source assess table format, but excuse that I have no time to figure out the proper template formatting right now.

The articles from Indian Express, Firstpost and Times News Network are all independent. For reliability, WP:NEWSORGINDIA apples to all. Significant coverage; the Indian Express focus is on Battlegrounds Mobile India impressions, Firstpost is an interview, TNN is on PUBG star players. I think only the TNN piece could count for GNG, which would be insufficient (Delete). IgelRM (talk) 15:16, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's also existing sources in the article I've previously mentioned above. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:31, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the coverage from Indian Express, Outlook India, and other reliable sources provides independent and significant coverage, meeting GNG. Additionally, the National Creators Award nomination further supports his notability. There are also other sources already included in the article that contribute to this. Happy to discuss further if needed! Sarthak14331 (talk) 23:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can't state you think so without saying why. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:41, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To much of here and there, need to build a clear consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Garuda ^Talk! 09:05, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep sources provided are reliable and in-depth coverage sufficient to meet GNG. The article absolutely needs cleanup, but that doesn't affect the notability of the subject. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 15:14, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Thank you for your input. I appreciate your acknowledgment that the sources meet GNG. I agree that the article needs cleanup, and I’m working on improving its structure, formatting and readability. If you have any specific suggestions or areas you think need the most attention, I’d be happy to address them. Sarthak14331 (talk) 16:40, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]