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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar may be awarded to those that show a pattern of going the extra mile to be nice, without being asked.

This barnstar is awarded to Purplebackpack89, for his dedication to comprimise and his ability to work with other editors to come up with amicable solutions which satisfy everyone.

Purplebackpack89, thank you for your valiant efforts in building this project. Ikip (talk) 07:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Socratic Barnstar
Though I doubt you're going to get anywhere in this debate due to the highly charged nature of the subject matter, your viewpoint on the issue and your line of reasoning shows you are thinker. Keep it up! And don't despair. The service of truth is the hardest service. NickCT (talk) 03:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Thanks for putting forward the suggestion on ANI that we block, rather than ban, User:LiteralKa. It may or may not pass, but at the end of the day, you did the right thing by suggesting it. The Cavalry (Message me) 21:15, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Special Barnstar
For your battling abusive administrators and their sycophants. They do more destruction to Wikipedia than Joe can ever do and they know it. ...William 16:54, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar of Diligence
For all your hard work organizing and maintaining Wikipedia:Vital articles. You are an asset to the project; keep up the great work! GabeMc (talk|contribs) 19:16, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The WikiProject Merge Barnstar The Merging Barnstar
Thanks for your recent work on multiple merge & redirects re: Yoko Tsuno. Much appreciated. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 13:25, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Activists

pbp, you're obviously more versed in American history than I am. What do you think we should cut from Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/People/Military personnel, revolutionaries, and activists#Rebels, revolutionaries and activists? We're 68 articles over the recently decided quota. starship.paint (RUN) 12:53, 7 January 2024 (UTC) @Starship.paint: I was about to work on this today. I think American activists is severely bloated and probably 40 of the 68 should come from there. I'll ping you again when I finish my list, it's a WIP right now. pbp 13:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Starship.paint: Here some names that could be moved or removed. The principal rationale is that they are not the leading activists in their field. Abolition, all three waves of feminism, black civil rights, LGBT rights, Native American rights, labor organization, environmentalism, and consumer rights all will be left with multiple representatives:

However, we may need to ADD Enrique Tarrio (organizer, with Trump, of January 6 capitol attack) and move Dorothea Dix from scientists to activist. FWIW, the ones that are being kept, broken down by areas, are:

Abolitionism (7)
John Brown, Frederick Douglass (VA4), William Lloyd Garrison, Harriet Jacobs, Sojourner Truth (VA4), Harriet Tubman (VA4), Theodore Dwight Weld
African-American civil rights (inc. Black Panthers and BLM) (24)
Ralph Abernathy, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Ruby Bridges, Anita Bryant, Stokely Carmichael, Patrisse Cullors, Angela Davis, Medgar Evers, Fred Hampton, Hubert Harrison, Jesse Jackson, Colin Kaepernick, Coretta Scott King, Martin Luther King Jr. (VA4), John Lewis, Little Rock Nine, Huey P. Newton, Rosa Parks (VA4), A. Philip Randolph, Fred Shuttlesworth, Booker T. Washington (VA4), Ida B. Wells, Walter White, Malcolm X (VA4)
Anarchism and Communism (4)
Bill Ayers, Chicago Seven, Gus Hall, Sacco and Vanzetti
Environmentalism (2)
Marjory Stoneman Douglas, John Muir (VA4)
Feminism and women’s suffrage (8)
Susan B. Anthony (VA4), Carrie Chapman Catt, Betty Friedan (VA4), Lucretia Mott, Alice Paul, Elizabeth Cady Stanton (VA4), Gloria Steinem, Victoria Woodhull
Labor (12)
Cesar Chavez, Eugene V. Debs, Samuel Gompers, Bill Haywood, Jimmy Hoffa, Dolores Huerta, Mother Jones, Daniel De Leon, John L. Lewis, Tony Mazzocchi, George Meany, Walter Reuther
LGBT (4)

Barbara Gittings, Marsha P. Johnson, Christine Jorgensen, Harvey Milk (VA4)

Native American rights (5)
Dennis Banks, Geronimo, Irataba, Wilma Mankiller, Sarah Winnemucca
White Nationalism (2)
Hiram Wesley Evans, George Lincoln Rockwell
Consumer rights (3); Erin Brockovich, Ralph Nader, Karen Silkwood
Other (17)
  1. Jane Addams (VA4) (settlement house/pacificism)
  2. Jessie Daniel Ames (anti-lynching)
  3. Clara Barton (American Red Cross)
  4. Helen Keller (VA4 (Disabilities rights, pacifism)
  5. Jack Kevorkian (physician-assisted suicide)
  6. Lyndon LaRouche (fringe political parties/conspiracy theories)
  7. Juliette Gordon Low (Girl Scouts)
  8. Chelsea Manning
  9. Carrie Nation (temperance/anti-saloon)
  10. Alex Pacheco (activist) (PETA)
  11. Margaret Sanger (Level 4) (abortion/eugenics)
  12. Mario Savio (Free Speech/anti-Vietnam)
  13. Phyllis Schlafly (anti-Feminism)
  14. Edward Snowden (WikiLeaks)
  15. Enrique Tarrio (January 6)
  16. Jody Williams (anti-landmines/Nobel Prize)
  17. Bill W. (Alcoholics Anonymous)


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Request

Hi there, if you wouldn't mind referring to me as they/them I would greatly appreciate it. Cheers. DN (talk) 00:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, sorry for not doing so earlier pbp 01:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request

I must ask you to please keep your comments about me within the scope of matters under discussion and to use the names we have designated for ourselves.

As we have a dispute, I have been following the instructions of WP:Dispute resolution to the best of my ability. If you have a complaint I encourage you to look at the instructions for such problems on the same page and pursue at your discretion. I suggest however that we seek WP:Mediation. SamuelRiv (talk) 03:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Sam" and "Sammy" are reasonable nicknames for Samuel, come on, man...
And let me get this straight...you're allowed to come on to my talk page to tell me how to behave, but I'm not allowed to express concerns about your behavior anywhere? You're allowed to discuss this wherever you want and I'm not? Do you not see the inherent inequality there? You have GOT to start treating me as an equal, man...I'm not a child and I'm not one of your students (I presume you are a professor or instructor of some sort? No official confirmation but you give off that vibe).
One of the key elements of dispute resolution is disengagement. And, buddy, you're doing the exact opposite: you're trying to figure out which forum to go to to either get your way on the RWP article, or exact some punishment from me. It would be best for you to just avoid both me and RWP for the foreseeable future. Mediation is not needed if you do that and I am NOT going to initiate a mediation request. Too bureaucratic anyway. Please be aware that if you initiate it, there are a number of things that I will request that YOU be forced to start doing, such as a) treating me as an equal, b) being more thorough with verifiability checks if you're removing a lot of content, c) explaining them in greater detail when asked, d) not edit-warring when consensus has been reached, e) disengaging when consensus is against you, and failing those f) an interaction ban with me, which would forbid you from removing content I add

pbp 04:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently WP:M exists but WP:RfM no longer does (despite being linked on DRN main), so I filed a general dispute resolution request, asking for mediation. SamuelRiv (talk) 05:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SamuelRiv: IDK where you get the assumption that I agreed to this. Above I said mediation wasn't need pbp 12:56, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Doniago: @Drmies: Get a load of this...Samuel is forum-shopping. Feels like he's NEVER going to drop this and is going to go ANYWHERE and do ANYTHING until he either gets a W on the populism page or against me personally. I advised him "Mediation is not needed" but he created a dispute resolution request anyway. pbp 13:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think WP:DRN is a reasonable approach to trying to resolve your disagreement at this point. If you feel this is primarily a conduct matter rather than a content issue, then given your evident frustrations I'd generally suggest going to WP:ANI, but you're going to need to provide specific diffs demonstrating how their conduct violates policies/guidelines. While WP:CANVASS may be a concern, I haven't really seen evidence of that thus far, though maybe I'm assuming more good faith than is warranted. I'm sorry if I'm not coming across as being as supportive as you were hoping for, but filing an ANI report is pretty serious business that can reflect as badly on the filer as on the person being reported, so I'd encourage you to give DRN a try. If it doesn't work out in Samuel's favor and they continue to push the situation then you'll have pretty solid ground for an ANI filing in any case. DonIago (talk) 13:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Doniago: I have no intention of filing an ANI and you are indeed correct that ANIs have a habit of blowing up in the nominator's face. I have no intention of starting any additional discussion threads anywhere because I want this to go away and there are already existing discussions going (at article's talk page, for example).
    I suppose I have to participate in the DRN he started. A draft of my response to the DRM can be found here. It has diffs pbp 14:07, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    FWIW, DRN is voluntary, so you don't have to participate...but I think it shows good faith if you do participate, and I think it's your best option for resolving this matter and hope that it will be the final word on it. I'm not really planning to participate myself, as I don't know that I have anything meaningful to contribute. DonIago (talk) 14:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, you got dragged into this because you declined SamuelRiv's 3O and he tried to badger you into reopening it.
    Once again, if you have a few minutes to read this, it would be appreciated pbp 15:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Eh, calling your opponent "Sammy" doesn't look good here. I was going to read that document, but I won't unless you rethink and rename. Drmies (talk) 15:34, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Drmies: I have made the change you requested. It can now be found here pbp 16:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Btw, @Drmies: @Doniago: an additional thing that bothers me is Samuel's dispute resolution request is rife with factual errors. He says I agreed to this dispute resolution process when I didn't. He says there were only two editors involved when there were more. &c. pbp 18:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The DRN filing would be the proper place to express those concerns. DonIago (talk) 19:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Doniago: Have you had a chance to glance at my draft? pbp 20:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I honestly don't think anyone at DRN is going to read it if you post it, because it's a WP:WALLOFTEXT that seems more focused on conduct than content. DRN is for content disputes, so I would recommend focusing on your concerns regarding the content and minimizing any discussion of behavioral concerns. If I understand things right and the base content concern is that Samuel is removing text for which WP:V has been satisfied, then it seems to me that all you really need to establish is that the text did in fact satisfy WP:V (easy enough if there's citations to reliable sources), and then it's on Samuel to verbalize why they feel V wasn't satisfied. I hope this helps. DonIago (talk) 20:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    it's as annoying as all get-out tbh, @Doniago:. For starters, he hasn't specifically listed the passages he's challenged or why he's challenging them ("Oh all of them" isn't specific enough to be helpful)
    The other annoying thing is that he's whining for a do-over because he didn't get his way before. Might as well just copy-and-paste the greatest hits of what I've said before because doing anything else is a waste of my time. You understand why I'm frustrated about this, right? pbp 21:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. But consider WP:ROPE (more as a general principle of how to handle this than in the specifics it discusses). If Samuel keeps pushing as he seems to be doing, he will attract undesirable attention from people in a position to do something about it, though it may take time (as all bureaucratic processes do). The DRN filing will most likely either uphold his views, in which case you'll have learned something useful (hopefully), or go against him, in which case if he keeps pushing you'll have something definitive that you can present at ANI. I've been in your position, and I know it sucks to be told to sit back and wait, but attacking them will just make you look worse. The best thing you can do is make it as clear as possible that you're trying to assume good faith and follow the established processes to their intended conclusions, including the parts where you should keep quiet and let other people handle things. DonIago (talk) 21:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Check out this version of my comments.
    And TBH, I almost WANT other editors to get bored with what I say, do nothing, and leave me alone. pbp 22:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As for lessons learned, if Samuel were to get his way, it'd probably just further restrict how I edit rather than doing anything useful. It's akin to why I don't try for FAs or GAs anymore: because the bureacrats and WikiLawyers make the hard-working editors like me their slaves pbp 22:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the new version is better. I'd recommend removing the scare quotes, as they amount to casting aspersions, and not using all-caps at any point, as it comes across as yelling (if you still feel emphasis is needed, consider italics instead). I'm not sure your proposal of remedies is a great idea either. DRN is for moderated discussion to reach a compromise; it's not ANI. I think you'll make a better impression if you leave it to the moderator to propose a solution rather than demanding one of two options right out of the gate. I also think you'll make a better impression if you focus on just wanting Samuel to explain their reasoning versus jumping ahead as though it's a foregone conclusion that their reasoning will be insufficient. It may seem very unlikely, but part of AGF is being open to the possibility that there may be a good reason for the other party's actions even when they seem incomprehensible to you.
    Also, not to be a pedant, but I think you used the wrong template for the collapsible box. Consider Template:Collapse instead.
    TL;DR I think if you dial back your tone and center your comments around merely wanting an explanation from Samuel at this time, before judging the rightness of their actions, it will make for a better presentation. Hope this is helpful! DonIago (talk) 14:14, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's difficult for me to put up some fake show of AGF about SamuelRiv when a) he started a DRV when I advised him not to, b) he made inaccurate statements in said DRV, and c) he's been hounding other editors about their closes he didn't like. If he continues to hound editors like he did to SMcCandlish, it's off to ANI for Samuel, BOOMerang be damned. pbp 01:40, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fair enough, and I understand where you're coming from. You'd just asked for my advice, so I provided it. DonIago (talk) 03:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In case you haven't already seen it, the DRN filing has been closed after Samuel neglected to comment further (while inexplicably making edits to other areas of the project). Thank you for giving DRN a chance, or at least humoring it. I can't say I'm pleased by how that went, as it turned into a huge waste of time, but I'd say you've now got your mandate to revert Samuel's edits if you wish to do so. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 02:20, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You evidently tapped a different part of your screen than you meant to tap. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, something like that. I got a new phone a few weeks ago and I need to adjust the sensitivity. The timing suggests the edit happened while I was walking with my phone in my pocket pbp 00:43, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your signature on Wikipedia stands out for its unique styling, surpassing nearly every signature I've come across. The individual links are tiny and challenging to hover over, the custom redirect for Special:Contributions hampers user highlighting scripts, and the span outside of the links keeps CSS to de-customize signatures from working (the half-disabled result is even harder to read). Would you consider adjusting your signature? At a minimum, placing the spans inside of the anchors and linking to /wiki/Special:Contributions/Purplebackpack89 would help. Larger links would be even better. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel Quinlan: Since my signature became deprecated, I've now fixed it. All three letters in the signature now redirect to this page and the span is functional again. pbp 21:22, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's definitely an improvement, thanks! Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vital articles proposals

A couple of my proposals from March have reached the top of people talk page. I don't think anyone is ever going to vote for them, so feel free to close them. Is it all right though if I re-propose adding Thomas A. Dorsey and Blind Willie Johnson? I think I made my discussion regarding them too complicated for people to actually vote. SailorGardevoir (talk) 23:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SailorGardevoir: You may want to wait on restarting that discussion until we've figured out just how many musicians of certain genres we recommend for VA5. pbp 00:38, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. SailorGardevoir (talk) 00:48, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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About the V4 proposal

While I apologize for not seeing the previous proposals to remove Calhoun (which I tried to search for, but nothing came up for whatever reason), I would appreciate it if you didn't call my efforts "disruptive" when I attempted to provide a detailed rationale for my proposal. Especially compared to the previous proposals that you highlighted. Thanks. λ NegativeMP1 19:07, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "disruptive" was a bridge too far, but please understand how frustrating it is to have a discussion over and over and over pbp 19:32, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@NegativeMP1: Let me also confess that I'm rather disappointed in GeogSage, for a) reopening the proposal, b) accusing me of incivility and ownership for closing it, and c) for not really respecting both past and present consensus on the balance between biographies and other topics. I'm also worried that, sooner or later, Geog is going to try and get me kicked out of the project. pbp 17:50, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can definitely see your viewpoint and I do think some of his proposals may be a bit questionable, but I don't think it's necessarily a big deal. And I don't want to discuss another editor on wiki unless it's confrontation. Moving on from that, I want to make clear (incase it didn't come off that way before) that I fully, 100% understand what you were going for with being exhausted by repeated proposals, and I wouldn't have made that one had I saw the past attempts to remove him. Even if I still think he could be removed and voted for his removal in the reopened proposal. λ NegativeMP1 18:02, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing rules and regs?

Hello, and good to discuss the James Bevel removal/possible return entry with you and NegativeMP1. A question to both, is canvassing allowed at pertinent topic pages and Wikiprojects for level-decision topics such as this? For Bevel I'd add the link and request to his page and the Civil Rights Movement page as well as to the inactive Civil Rights Movement wikiproject (for those who still watchpage it). Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Carlwev and Aurangzebra (nice username!), can you weigh in here about if notifying the James Bevel talk page, the Civil Rights Movement talk page, and the Civil Rights Movement wikiproject would be canvassing (also again pinging NegativeMP1 who may have missed the first). In deciding an individual's inclusion on this level-list I'd think the more knowledge editors can bring to the discussion the better, and that canvassing on Wikipedia means something else. Canvassing refers to seeking further comments in Requested Moves, AfD, and other discussions where policies/guidelines often decide, not by a show of hands. In the case of a topic's acceptance or rejection to Level 5, a count of commenting editors opinions decides, as a topic must reach 60% approval, and not knowledge of a topic or subject expertise. In the discussion that removed Bevel there seems to be no discussion and nothing in the way of reasoning except "he's not famous" and there are already people from the Civil Rights Movement listed (except for Dr. King, and the missing Diane Nash, Bevel's impact on the movement and achieving its goal of removing legalized segregation in America would arguably outweigh all of the others combined). Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:38, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Randy Kryn:: Before we get any further, I need to ask you a question: if Bevel is not added, will you respect the outcome? (You've indicted in a number of ways that you do NOT respect the last discussion). You cling very tightly to the idea that Bevel is quite notable, and you can't admit that both other editors AND many writers of the historical record don't seem to see it that way. And, related: do you respect the knowledge of the people who have voted? (Ping @Aurangzebra: because of what they said in their vote).
Fame DOES play a role in vitality; there is little point in writing a good article about a topic if no one will read it. And it should be somewhat a red flag that someone who has a history degree, as I do, has barely heard of the guy.
@NegativeMP1: This somewhat reminds me of the Calhoun discussion, in that a discussion that went one way was reopened in hopes of it going the other way. And, as with the Calhoun discussion, I don't like litigating the same thing over and over and over.
As for "what is canvassing", it's generally discouraged to post in an area where the readers of that post are of a predetermined mind. pbp 14:08, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Criteria #3, "Notability: Individuals within the People section represent the pinnacles of their field with a material impact on the course of humanity...". In the field of activism, Bevel ranks with Gandhi and King in accomplishment of nonviolent activism (which should really be the only kind) and the unquestionably importance of the Civil Rights Movement to the course of humanity. No question of that. As to respect, that's certainly the wrong word to answer yes or no to. My knowledge of James Bevel was 0 prior to being present when he gave a talk in October of 1983, and then researching him at-length, publishing my research before, during, and after engaging in discussions with living leaders of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement, and informing myself. I did so because of my heartfelt interest and limited but "in the mix" participation in 1960s nonviolent activism, its events, and its music.
Because I was there too. Bevel? Who? He did what now? I had to prove it to myself, as I'd never heard of him. All I'm asking is that each of the 'oppose' editors take maybe an hour or two to study Bevel's work and what the Nashville Student Movement, the Birmingham Children's Crusade, Selma Voting Rights Movement, the Selma to Montgomery march, the Chicago Open Housing movement, and the National Mobilization to End the War in Vietnam had on their "material impact on the course of humanity". For such a Wikipedia decision such as this, after Bevel was already listed and you for whatever reason (I wish you'd think back and express exactly why you nominated him) decided he should be removed, does not lack in concern. I would hope you would conduct a full investigation of Bevel's work, and then consider changing your !vote to 'Support' (and actually, even if 100 editors gave support, your support would mean more given your steadfast opposition to what I can assure you will become the obvious once you dive in). Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:32, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Randy Kryn:: I'm bothered by your response of "As to respect, that's certainly the wrong word to answer yes or no to", which appears to be in answer to my question of either "if Bevel is not added, will you respect the outcome?" or "do you respect the knowledge of the people who have voted?".
The only acceptable way to answer the former is, "Yes, if Bevel is not added, I will respect the consensus of the project". As for the latter, please remember that the other members of the project are NOT idiots. I know you're trying to impart us additional information about Bevel, but remember that it IS possible to read your opinion on Bevel and STILL not believe he is vital. pbp 17:11, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't answer that direct question because it's not clear to me what you're asking, and now you are putting it front and center before you, hopefully, get to my above response. What does "respect for the consensus of the project" mean in relationship to the discussion? The discussion will hopefully go forward, and if participating editors who work on this list eventually, having made a serious in-depth effort to study Bevel's activist work and history to ascertain if he did or did not have "material impact on the course of humanity" (that seems to me an easy answer, yes, of course he did), will make a decision. If they walk away from further discussion, as NegativeMP1 has done (comment just below) what am I to think about how the list process works or how the decision is made? There is no such thing as "respecting" or "not respecting" the result, it's just a Wikipedia result. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:52, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This should be an open and shut case. On the VA project, people write a proposal, include their reasoning, and then it is up to the other members of the project to decide whether or not this logic makes sense. It is clear here that people don't believe Bevel belongs at this level. If this was a close vote, I would encourage spirited debate. But this is a landslide oppose. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:20, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Then what is that section "Discussion" for? I haven't looked, Aurangzebra, have you struck your incorrect aspersions about me which appear in your initial comment? I think I've asked you to three times, and ask again. I have never referenced an unpublished paper nor have I been blocked for a COI infraction, and continuing to keep that language without correction once asked to remove it is confusing (hopefully you have, in which case, apology). As for open-and-shut, once someone researches, analyzes, and timelines the events Bevel was responsible for there should be no question. The nom has time to run, and could easily change if others hear of the nomination (Wikipedia's major historian editor has not chimed in and probably isn't aware of the nom), and others would probably come by to at least do some needed research on the topic. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:02, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My word on this matter has been spoken and I don't think I will be participating or discussing it any further. λ NegativeMP1 16:08, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, that's where I'd like to be as well, but it feels like Randy won't take that as my final answer. pbp 17:03, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously? I can't force you to stay in a discussion. If that's really how you feel and what you really want to do I'll respect that and not ask you anything directly again. But appealing to your academic degree in history, come on, are you really saying you're not interested in making darn sure your decision to oppose a level 5 ranking for James Bevel is the right one? Randy Kryn (talk) 02:52, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you want me to continually examine this, let me ask you to examine some things as well: Does the research you've conducted into Bevel make you impartial? Are you too invested in getting him listed as a vital article? Are you darn sure about your answers to those two questions? pbp 03:28, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not impartial as to Bevel's fitting the requirement for such a list. As an activist he used his skill and intent to change the course of human society, and if I'm reading the criteria right about societal impact, he fits. No, I'm just arguing a case that his work and accomplishments as an activist deserve vital article level 5 inclusion. I'm pretty gung-ho about many discussions on Wikipedia, as an editor with often firm opinions, but then let almost all of them go once they are resolved. I didn't even know Bevel was removed from the list until I recalled that he may have been on it and checked. He was removed what, over a year ago?, so am obviously not overly invested in the need for a vital ranking. Just am sure of its appropriateness. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:24, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:APPNOTE, looks like some neutral alerts are fine (Bevel talk page, Wikiprojects, Civil Rights Movement talk page). I've written up and posted one, seems neutral. No new editors may appear, and if they do it may end as the same result due to Bevel's non-fame and editors not actually taking the time to make a mental map of the Civil Rights Movement and perceiving how the events initiated, directed, and organized by Bevel fit into and guided the timeline and its 1960s congressional end-of-legalized-segregation successes. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:36, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Garrow

Just ran across this page where Garrow is shown to doubt some of the FBI's information on another matter. In contrast, thanks for the mention of material on Garrow's page, I just read one of the articles he wrote about the controversial claims which seems very detailed and well-written (as usual for Garrow's academic work). An interesting read knowing that Garrow knew the flack he would take and the damage to his reputation that would follow once reporting on it. The tapes, whatever they contain, will be released in 2027, which Garrow mentions near the end of his controversial paper. Thanks for putting my attention on these matters. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:59, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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