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Unconverted urls
Many thanks for some good work on Thomas Fairfax. Please can you remember not to leave unconverted urls. We generally don't like unconverted urls per WP:BAREURL, although it is good you are leaving additional information. There are quite a few unconverted urls on Gregory Clement, Hercules Huncks and Robert Lilburne as well. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 10:39, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- You will have to leave me an example of what you consider a bare url. As you know, I am quite new to Wikipedia and the formatting standards here are not exactly what I am used to. Lois Hacker (talk) 12:15, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi - Sure. In this example the url remains bare:[1] but in this example you cannot see the url.[2] In the article on John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, which is a featured article, you cannot see the urls. It is really just a matter of keeping things tidy. Dormskirk (talk) 12:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- If you are talking about enclosing the URl in brackets, I'm familiar with this.
- However, I see that a number of my citations have been changed to a completely different format that I can't work with, as well as setting up potential edit conflicts. I will not be able to continue if these are not reverted. Lois Hacker (talk) 13:05, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi - Sure. In this example the url remains bare:[1] but in this example you cannot see the url.[2] In the article on John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, which is a featured article, you cannot see the urls. It is really just a matter of keeping things tidy. Dormskirk (talk) 12:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Foster, Joseph. Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire. London: W Wilfred Head, 1874. https://archive.org/details/pedigreesofcount01fost/page/n115/mode/2up
- ^ Foster, Joseph (1874). Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire. London: W. Wilfred Head.
- It is not a matter of enclosing the url in brackets: it is a matter of making them invisible. I have already done it for you for all references that you have added. Please just take a look at what I have done: take a look at the article on the John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough for another example. Dormskirk (talk) 13:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I see that I will not be able to continue with this. I find that I can not undo the changes from the History page. The rewrite as I have planned it would take weeks. The potential for edit conflicts adds too much wasted time. Lois Hacker (talk) 13:23, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi - That's a pity. There is a simple alternative which is not as good. If you have a URL (web page) link, you can add it to the title part of the citation, so that when you add the citation to Wikipedia the URL becomes hidden and the title becomes clickable. To do this, enclose the URL and the title in square brackets—the URL first, then a space, then the title. For example:[1] Dormskirk (talk) 13:29, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ IARC Monographs On The Evaluation Of Carcinogenic Risks To Humans – Doxefazepam. International Agency For Research On Cancer (IARC). 66: 97–104. 13–20 February 1996.
- That is what I was talking about, the URL in brackets. Lois Hacker (talk) 13:32, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- OK. Please go ahead then. Dormskirk (talk) 13:34, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- No, I can see too much downside here in continuing. Lois Hacker (talk) 14:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- OK That's a pity. Dormskirk (talk) 14:20, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia: BAREURL "Wikipedia:Citation templates are popular but not required. Any method showing more information than is present in the URL itself is not a bare URL. Full citations are preferred, but even an incomplete citation is not necessarily a bare URL. Some citation styles, such as the MLA style, use full bibliographic citation that happen to display the text of the URL in addition to proper identifying information, like the author, date, and title of the publication. These are not considered bare URLs." Lois Hacker (talk) 14:41, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, that's why I used the term "unconverted url". You won't find any visible urls in good or featured articles. Dormskirk (talk) 14:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia: BAREURL "Wikipedia:Citation templates are popular but not required. Any method showing more information than is present in the URL itself is not a bare URL. Full citations are preferred, but even an incomplete citation is not necessarily a bare URL. Some citation styles, such as the MLA style, use full bibliographic citation that happen to display the text of the URL in addition to proper identifying information, like the author, date, and title of the publication. These are not considered bare URLs." Lois Hacker (talk) 14:41, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- OK That's a pity. Dormskirk (talk) 14:20, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- No, I can see too much downside here in continuing. Lois Hacker (talk) 14:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- OK. Please go ahead then. Dormskirk (talk) 13:34, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- That is what I was talking about, the URL in brackets. Lois Hacker (talk) 13:32, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Also according to WP:Citation templates "Because templates can be contentious, editors should not add citation templates, or change an article with a consistent citation format to another, without gaining consensus." Dormskirk (talk) 15:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I have no intention of engaging in an edit war here. I am not going to continue my improvement of this biography, so the issue is moot. Lois Hacker (talk) 15:11, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- OK. No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 15:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)