Talk:Coalition casualties in Afghanistan

Official casualties number

Please check [1] before updating this page.Copperchair 28 June 2005 20:48 (UTC)

No. We should use the DoD page [2] for a number of reasons. It is the official count, and lists those killed in combat, in accidents, etc. The CNN page does not, it only lists how many killed. There is a second section to the article detailing this that should be updated as well, in addition to just the numbers.
I have also noticed, Copperchair, that you keep reverting the number of Germans killed to 14. The number is 16, as two days ago, two Germans were killed in an accidental explosion[3], bringing their total dead to 16. I've noted this in the history section of this article. The CNN page HAS NOT been updated to account for the German deaths, but I think it will soon. I am making the changes again--trust me, I have the correct figures. We just need a little coordination here. PBP 4:52 PM, June 28, 2005

All right, I'll trust you on the WIA, but the DoD page does not specify the number of non-Americans killed, so there is no official number of those servicemen killed after June 22. Copperchair 29 June 2005 05:05 (UTC)

I'm going to try an avoid an edit war on this, so I'm going to list to you the German casualties. You can find them on the CNN site, if you look: March 6, 2002: 2 soldiers killed in accidental explosion. December 21, 2002: 7 soldiers killed in helicopter crash. May 29, 2003: 1 Soldier killed in mine blast. June 7, 2003: 4 soldiers killed by car bomb. That number is 14. On JUNE 26, 2 more Germans died in an accidental explosion [4], raising the toll to 16. THE CNN PAGE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED. PBP, 29 June 2005.

The CNN page was updated today. You were right about German casualties. I have only edited the date now. I also updated (with the same figures) the Operation Enduring Freedom casualties section. Copperchair 30 June 2005 02:22 (UTC)

Today the CNN page counts 211 American soldiers dead (as of June 30, and the DoD page counts only 195 (as of July 1). I've updated it to the earlier, then. Copperchair 2 July 2005 04:47 (UTC)

Just to word of advice, Copperchair--don't update the date every time the CNN or the DOD site do. Just change the date when the casualty numbers change. It saves you the hassle of updating it every day. PBP 7 July 2005 6:51

Italian casualties

"List of deaths of European soldiers" is partially wrong.

"October 24, 2005 - An Italian soldier, Captain Jesús de la Pascua Belaustegui, died from an illness in Herat."

Captain Jesús de la Pascua Belaustegui wasn't an italian soldier, but a spanish one.

SOURCE : http://afghanistan.pigstye.net/article.php?story=JesusDeLaPascuaBelaustegui

Futility of raw numbers without context

I would like to argue that this article is not of encyclopedic quality because it provides raw and emotional numbers without giving context. My thesis is that the number of death strictly due to war is in fact lower than one can infer from a quick reading of the article. Note that I don't dispute at all the numbers, only their possible interpretation by un-seasoned Wikipedia readers. Please also note that I deeply respect all the people who made the sacrifice of their life.

There are nearly 200,000,000 adults in USA, and there are nearly 30,000 deaths by car accident every year. Three deaths for 20,000 adults. There are nearly 200 Coalition deaths in Afghanistan per year. There was approximatively 60,000 troops for the whole Coalition during each of the nine years. It means that at least 9 deaths are not directly related to war but to something akin to a car accident. Moreover we can suppose that given the bad road infrastructure, road signs in foreign language if there are any and extreme geographical features of Afghanistan (some areas at more than 20,000 ft above sea level), wide range of temperature and inadequate vehicles for mountain roads: The rate of accidents is certainly much more higher. Let say ten times higher than in USA. It gives 90 deaths per year. Nearly half of the number which could be understood as war deaths. And this is only for car accidents, what about other kind of accident?

Higher figures for Coalition losses

I propose a higher figure for the Coalition losses around 30,000 due to the difficulty to keep track of the losses while in the fighting, we must also acknowledge the sources for the Coalition causalities could be Biased or misreported leading to significantly higher causalities . Teatimenew (talk) 09:57, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect article title

this entire article it discussing coalition "fatalities" not casualties. And to be more precise is discussing coalition "operational fatalities", it likely does not include someone dying in a vehicle accident on base for example. ~2026-69069-9 (talk) 10:08, 1 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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