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5x expanded by Miminity (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:40, 5 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: No issues with eligibility, hook is fine and sourced even if it's not the most interesting. The double digit percentages on Earwig are from review quotes/proper nouns. The film has been released, so the premise section should be a fully-fledged plot section. There are also multiple grammatical errors in the article, including run-on sentences. The flow of the article is also pretty bad (e.g. 12/19 of the non-lead/plot/cast sentences begin with "The film" or slight variations such as "The film's", with 4/7 of the remainder being about reviews that all go "X of Y said Z". Release and marketing are both short and should probably be combined in some way per MOS:FILM. There are serious, but not insurmountable presentation issues that need to be addressed before approval. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some preliminary cleanup work. Also, in the hook, "on" should probably be replaced by "of".
@Patar knight: Thanks for reviewing, I fix some of the issues you pointed out, tell me if there's more, also, I'm slighly confused with story's phasing, so It hard to make a plot summary but I'll try my best. Also, your suggested hook is much better. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 00:19, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just ping me when the plot summary is written and I'll take another look. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight:, I had written the plot. I don't know how to write one so this might be a sloppy one and I hope you can help me fix it. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For one, it's more than 700 words, which is the limit recommended at MOS:FILMPLOT. It should use the narrative present tense (WP:PLOTPRESENT). There's so many tense flips here, I'm not sure what the narrative format of this film even is, and without watching the film, can't really fix the issues. I would recommend reviewing the two pages I linked and rewriting the plot summary. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight: I done what you are talking about and lower the word count to around 670. Also, as the movie, switches between two people. I retain some of the past tense when character is talking about what happen in the past. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The plot section (or rather, plot paragraph!) is still very poor with lots of typos (e.g. Masabu/Manabu? Haruka?) and grammatical mistakes and what seem like many prima facie irrelevant details (e.g. exact salaries, exact punishment for vandalism) while lots of essential details are omitted, including but not limited to:
  • What job does Haruko have?
  • What exactly is Yukio's relationship to the other characters?
  • What Yukio's gender is (only revealed after the third namedrop)?
  • Why should Aina and Yukio remember Manabu from just seeing him?
  • How much time is passing between events? Does the film take place over two days or more?
  • Why does Haroko have a missing person poster?
  • Was Aina using a fake identity?
From what I can tell the movie seems to follow two main characters (Haruko and Aina) in a linear manner and there is some sort of reveal about the missing posters at the end, which is not explained very well Having multiple protagonists/storylines is a very common feature of movies, so perhaps you can take a look at a film that you have seen from Wikipedia:Featured_articles#Films and see how their plot section is written and try to emulate it here. Given that the plot section is in this state, it is probably necessary to have brief descriptions of the characters in the Cast section as well, which would alleviate some of the issues. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:08, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight: Sorry for the late reply, the movie does not seems state how much time has passed each scene, as even the reviews by users on Eiga.com talks about how confusing the story is. There is a lot of details was missing in the movie. this is the pirated version of the movie on dailymotion (I don't think there is a english platform where this can watched legally) if you want to watch it for yourself.

I don't think I can answer most of the questions above, but I have fixed most of the issues I can fixed. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight: The prep set for International Women's Day is now open, please return to this nomination when you can.--Launchballer 13:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I took a brief look at the pirated film version to try and get a grasp on the plot. It seems pretty clear that the two main plotlines are (mostly?) happening at different times since Haruko is obviously not missing yet in her scenes while the Aina plotline resolves around creating art around Haruko's missing poster (which has a 2015 date) until apparently near the end, when Haruko shows up with a child. I would suggest the plot be rewritten in a way similar to The Godfather Part II which also follows two different timelines. Also, since we have access to the film credits, a fuller cast section can be written in accordance with MOS:FILMCAST (e.g. multiple roles currently described in the plot do not have listed actors in the cast section, and one actor in that section has a role not named in the plot). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haruko's scenes are happening in the past (2015-ish per the date on the poster and Aina's scenes are happening sometime after that

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