User talk:Greenflipper

Good evening Greenflipper, I have created a draft for Mitchell Lawrie, with a list of references that could be used in the article below the ref list. I would like to ask for your help in creating a BLP out of it and we can see if it’s enough to create a good quality one out of it.

Kind regards, DartsF4 DartsF4 (talk) 20:39, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Starting to come together
The Sky Sports article published today helps
With the WDF tables, would you want to only include events where he reached the quarters or semis. To make it easier and to exclude less notable results? DartsF4 (talk) 13:17, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's way too many, should be restricted to senior/youth events that are premium or gold events Greenflipper (talk) 14:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I was just thinking maybe that as well, will sort. This is exactly why we draft first. Have done so. DartsF4 (talk) 14:19, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

18 October 2025

Good afternoon

What Flag do you think should be used for Women's Series 21 semi-finalist Sue Lowther?

Also what do you think of Sisao25's edits on Luke Littler? DartsF4 (talk) 16:05, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lowther's DartsAtlas profile has her listed as English and it appears she plays county for Hampshire, so yeah England
Checking the Littler thing now Greenflipper (talk) 17:38, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New Women's Series Quarter-finalists

Sue Lowther and Leanne Halls made the quarters at WS21 and Lauryn Salter at WS24. They are not yet in the PDC Rankings module but I’m not sure how to add them in text mode on mobile DartsF4 (talk) 23:58, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

European Championship (darts) was moved to European Darts Championship without a move discussion

Hey Greenflipper, just wanted to let you know this move took place, initiated by @IMSA2024, an editor with 228 edits whose account was created on 13 October 2025 (10 days ago). It was done without discussion, which I believe is not appropriate for a controversial and potentially controversial move such as this one. I have concerns with this title due to the similarly named article EDF European Darts Championship.

Do you think we should ask for a move discussion to take place or discuss it on one of the talk page so regular darts editors can voice their judgments? DartsF4 (talk) 14:03, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update: @OZOO has changed the title back DartsF4 (talk) 14:17, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PDC Pro Tour and European Tour Order of Merit

Hey Greenflipper, I have noticed you started updating the PDC Pro Tour Order of Merit.

I have a few questions

1. When the 2025 PDC Pro Tour season ends should the final 2025 Pro Tour Order of Merit be placed on the page, where on the page if so and with how many players.

I think there are 3 options:

Option 1: The Top 16

Option 2: The Top 32 (the seeds for PC1&2 in 2026)

Option 3: The World Championship Qualifiers

2. I would like to be able to help updating them myself but I can’t figure out how to do it efficiently.

3. There are module templates for

Some or all of these could be updated to 2025 and brought into use

The Euro Tour one could be placed on PDC European Tour, and the 2025 final ranking on either 2025 European Championship or 2025 PDC Pro Tour#European Tour DartsF4 (talk) 15:13, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I forgot about that. We could include the top 16 next to the lead. Keeping up with the rest of the Orders of Merit seems like a lot of hassle though Greenflipper (talk) 19:49, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not saying we update all of them every tournament.
I’m saying we update them with the end of 2025 rankings. DartsF4 (talk) 20:05, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think if any of them should be updated regularly it’s the Euro Tour one. DartsF4 (talk) 20:05, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Top 16 next to lead like 2024 PDC Pro Tour? DartsF4 (talk) 20:09, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yes Greenflipper (talk) 20:40, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I admit that if we’re not gonna use any one of them on any page it’s a fool's endeavour to update them. But I think the Euro Tour one has a clear possible practical use on PDC European Tour. DartsF4 (talk) 11:11, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Generally I don't think rankings that reset every year should be maintained. I'll update the Pro Tour ranking now Greenflipper (talk) 11:50, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Condensing long infoboxes

Hey Greenflipper, as you have seen on Luke Littler#Titles, Beau Greaves#Titles, Gian van Veen#Titles and Josh Rock#Titles, I have consdensed the infoboxes to premier events and awards to help meet MOS:INFOBOX per the requests on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Darts/Archive 2#Infoboxes. I have moved those non-premier events to newly created titles sections.

I will admit I took inspiration from the titles sections used on German darts players' articles.

I note that ItsKesha said: "Other tournament wins" is a particularly egregious section in the infobox, often minor/local tournaments which have little to no coverage in third party sources. As an example, look at this part in Ricardo Pietreczko's article. I wouldn't mind these being included in the prose, but inclusion in an infobox should only be the premier/major events. And you responded "Agreed, I wouldn't mind it being moved down to where the career finals and performance timeline are. I think players like Van Gerwen also warrant their own career achievements page, akin to something like List of career achievements by Tiger Woods."

I took your comment on Martin Adams' and condensed it to the WDF World Cup Singles which should be converted to collapsible medals, and the other tournament wins moved to a newly created Titles section.

As you have also seen, where applicable I condensed PCs and UKOQs to their years, but I would like to have them numbered in the title section as I’ve done in the Titles section of the 4 players so far.

I think Phil Taylor career statistics should be renamed as ItsKesha says, but should also have ET and PC tables added.

While we add CTs, DTs and WS', I’d like to have to have those PDC secondary tours' events have tables added where applicable.

I’m not sure what approach we could take for BDO/WDF tables, where they may be needed.

Thanks for reading if you made it all the way to the end. DartsF4 (talk) 18:52, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's the way to go moving forward. One thing I'm conflicted is the name "Titles". I wonder if someone may click on that section and expect to see every single title including the majors, but with it covered in the infobox, lead, career finals and performance timeline I hope it's not an issue.
The rest of the points should probably be taken to the wikiproject for a wider discussion. Greenflipper (talk) 20:14, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, things to discuss and find consensus on. With the stuff after "I think Phil Taylor", we need to to find consensus on.
On the moving titles from Infobox to the body I think we already reached consensus on. What we title the section I think we could raise on the WikiProject talk page and ask what the other prominent darts editors + the previously involved admins like Lee think of it. I think putting the stuff we will have that will already mentioned in the lead and Infobox and career finals and career section would not be a good idea when it comes to when you’ve got players who’ve won quite a few of them and it would clog up the titles section with stuff said right above it in career finals, etc.
We want the titles section to be helpful and if you or any other editor think a different title for the titles would be better I’d like to hear and consider it. DartsF4 (talk) 22:52, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Arno Merk Worlds ref

Are you wanting to use the German ref or this PDC ref? https://www.pdc.tv/news/2025/11/07/merk-wins-pdc-europe-super-league-confirm-world-darts-championship-debut DartsF4 (talk) 00:09, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Don't mind Greenflipper (talk) 00:28, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Player Infobox images

Hey Greenflipper, you know how you've uploaded images for players from DartsNow videos.

Do you think you could get one for the likes of Cam Crabtree and Lukas Wenig? DartsF4 (talk) 00:38, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They haven't been uploaded under free licences, can't use them Greenflipper (talk) 00:56, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ok DartsF4 (talk) 00:58, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kirk Bevins

Hey Greenflipper, just wanna know your thoughts on whether a Kirk Bevins article would be viable.

Here are some potential references, ignoring blogs:

[1] [2] [3] Darts News page [4] [5] Kirk's website Mastercaller DartsF4 (talk) 19:22, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, might look into it more once major season is over Greenflipper (talk) 20:34, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All good DartsF4 (talk) 20:37, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consistent adding of "ParaDarts" to pages

Hey Greenflipper, I know you’re busy with the Matchplay GA review so prioritise that over responding to this, but when you do have time I’d like to bring to your attention the addition of "x player has played in ParaDarts" to player pages.

These additions are unsourced and almost certainly fail notability, so just wanted to make you aware if you weren’t already in case this ends up getting out of hand. DartsF4 (talk) 22:48, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Where is this happening? Greenflipper (talk) 22:53, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have a look at Special:Contributions/~2025-36369-76. They’ve been doing it today and there’s loads of draft articles on ParaDarts players. An example being Draft:Gavin Conway DartsF4 (talk) 22:58, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Very strange. Thanks Greenflipper (talk) 23:03, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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IP edits on PDC World Championship pages

Hey, I saw you reverted the edits of a temp user on the 2026 PDC World Darts Championship page, just wanna let you know that they’ve done similar edits on other years' PDC World Championship pages. DartsF4 (talk) 11:01, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I saw, not something I wanna deal with right now lol Greenflipper (talk) 12:50, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We’ve got Lee if we need him at least DartsF4 (talk) 12:53, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for WDF World Darts Championship

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Fallon-Menzies

Hey, given you’ve updated Menzies page with their relationship having ended, could you do the same for Fallon please? DartsF4 (talk) 16:30, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure Greenflipper (talk) 16:30, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2026 World Darts Championship

Hi, sorry for keep re-adding the PDC refs, I just thought they might be useful as they've been used before. Didn't realise they were duplicates, so I'll not re-add them anymore. Sorry for the confusion 😀 L1amw90 (talk) 17:56, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! Sorry if the reverting felt aggressive Greenflipper (talk) 23:37, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Just letting you know I’ve created the page for the tournament, feel free to make improvements at your leisure DartsF4 (talk) 18:28, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]